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Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 12:19 PM
To: paul; Craig M. Doolittle; Craig Denman; Clay Moseley; Chad Patterson; NM Bike Racers
Subject: Re: [NMCycling] Mari Holden trivia

Chad,

Back in the fast days before the shoulder there was the tire wear strip. That was the fast line.

I know I have spoken with a number of people over the years on the record and many will not attempt it because the

course is not closed. One team manager actually said that Frey had to be drafting the day he set his record.

Yeah, Steve Wood had just graduated from Highland High. I think he is still the youngest winner of road nationals

and may still have the largest winning margin. A ride legends are made of. Flatted 2x caught back solo both times.

Went through the field and attacked after the second lap. Tom Doughty was the only one to go with him. Then he dropped

Doughty on Watertower hill. Solo'd in for the victory.

On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 8:36 AM, paul via Bike-racers <bike-racers@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:

...and the alibaba face mask, gigantic spoke protector (disk wheel precursor), Schwinn Ashtabula forks, 12 spokes(?), ...

On 07/19/2016 05:26 PM, Craig M. Doolittle via Bike-racers wrote:

And on the bottom of his shoes!

From: Bike-racers [mailto:bike-racers-bounces@mailman.swcp.com] On Behalf Of Craig Denman via Bike-racers
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 5:21 PM
To: Clay Moseley; Chad Patterson; NM Bike Racers
Subject: Re: [NMCycling] Mari Holden trivia

I remember John Frey's first TT record because I spent so much time looking at the stenciled 51:57 on the back of his seat tube -- and recall the 600-grit sandpaper on all of the tube leading edges placed there for the hype of speed.

Craig Denman

On 07/19/2016 03:53 PM, Clay Moseley via Bike-racers wrote:

John Frey once held the national record at around 52:00 early in his career with RGRT. I remember when it was still above the 50:00 mark around 1987 or so, then came the "fast years" from 1988 to recent. I think Kent was the first one to go sub-50 with his Ten-Speed Drive Guercotti, and within a year he got that down to 48:44 or so, when Frey did his thing in 1990 (47:35?). On that same day, Kent also went 47:40-something. I only recall one other person going sub-48 on the Moriarty course, and that was Colby Pearce with his high-dollar Lotus and Superman position. In recent years, it seems that the 50:00 minute barrier has become harder to break.

All that being said, I think the Brits were the first ones to make the 25-mile time trial a famous distance that was focused on for speed records. Our times compare closely with theirs, but it wasn't until Boardman came along that the 47-minute barrier was broken. Then there was a string of them as well.

Anyway, back to your original question, Mari Holden's time is pretty killer. Many top-level (Pro/Cat-1) men can't time trial that fast on an equitable course with the same conditions. That time will stand for a while.

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Chad Patterson via Bike-racers <bike-racers@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:

Can anyone tell me the last time a 51:36 would've been the outright winner of Record Challenge? I'm just looking for something that will illustrate to the average sports fan how ridiculously fast that is.

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