Are bicycle lanes being considered?-as it is, Copper has a "bike lane", but car & trash can parking is allowed, so most of the time we are pushed out into the lane. Monte Vista is wide enough for both, so it is much safer. I worry about traffic being pushed off into the side roads where kids (and adults) skateboard and bike, and people even walk in the streets because the sidewalks are pretty worthless (narrow, phone poles in the middle, driveway cut-outs etc.).
Thanks for the input.
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From: Jim Strozier
Sent: Mar 4, 2016 2:05 PM
To: Dan Spanogle
Cc: ronhalbgewachs , ""
Subject: Re: [Neighbors] ART
The City is planning to do back in (or nose out) angled parking on Silver and looking at it as an option for Monte Vista.
Jim Strozier, AICPConsensus Planning, Inc.
On Mar 4, 2016, at 8:17 AM, Dan Spanogle via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
I don't know if it is too late to make alterations to the parking plan...
It seems to me that a helpful parking solution would be to change it to 'back-in only angle in' parking.
I've seen this in other cities and it works great.
1. It doesn't take much more road space.2. It's easier to back into an angled space with traffic than to parallel park.3. It's safer for drivers to get in and out of their cars.4. Nob Hill would get more parking spaces.5. It's easier to merge back into traffic when leaving the parking space.
Just a quick thought.
On Thursday, March 3, 2016, ronhalbgewachs via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
The single lane of traffic Cliff refers to will be a mixture of automobiles and "local" city buses. Yes, it will be bumper to bumper and I bet really hard to accomplish parallel parking.
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From: Cliff Loucks via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
Sent: Mar 2, 2016 8:30 PM
To: ""
Subject: Re: [Neighbors] ART
Yes, the parallel parking is remaining. But I’m confused about how functional it will be. I say given this that I picture lots of bumper to bumper traffic in the single lane available for cars here in the heart of Nob Hill. I could certainly be wrong about that.
I’ve also been curious how the two lane traffic sections surrounding Nob Hill will smoothly transition into the single lane here in our neighborhood. After watching the traffic simulations on the ART website, what appears to happen is the outside traffic lanes becomes a Right Turn Only lane. Then I start picturing lots of unsuspecting motorists suddenly trying to merge into the thru lane.
I am not against the ART project, I’m merely suffering some confusion about the real life functionality of some aspects of it.
Please and Thank You,—-Cliff
On Mar 2, 2016, at 4:46 PM, Jim Strozier via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
_______________________________________________I believe that the existing on-street parking is also being maintained in Nob Hill.Jim Strozier, AICPConsensus Planning, Inc.( 505.764.9801P SAVE PAPER - Only print this e-mail if necessaryFrom: Neighbors_nobhill-nm [mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm-bounces@mailman.swcp.com] On Behalf Of Susan Michie via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 4:32 PM
To: Anderson Robert <citizen@comcast.net>
Cc: neighbors@nobhill-nm.com Hill <neighbors@nobhill-nm.com>
Subject: Re: [Neighbors] ARTRobert - as I understand it, there is a traffic analysis for the ART that provides an estimate of how much traffic could potentially be displaced onto all traffic arteries that parallel Central, rather than a plan to directly divert traffic onto Lead/Coal.Also, the current design plan will remove the medians and replace the same number of trees along the sidewalks and the parallel parking along Central will remain intact.Susan
From: Anderson Robert <citizen@comcast.net>
To: Susan Michie <sgmichie@yahoo.com>
Cc: Greg Weirs <vgweirs@gmail.com>; "neighbors@nobhill-nm.com Hill" <neighbors@nobhill-nm.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Neighbors] ARTAs I recall the early discussions in 2014 there was no open talk of shifting the traffic off Central to Lead/Coal.That was kept on the back burner and most people focused at the time on Central traffic. Now we know the full scope of what is planned with this ART. Is it necessary to destroy the communities along Lead/Coal to make a few bucks on Central?On Mar 1, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Susan Michie via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:Greg is right - I know of at least 3 public outreach events held by the NHNA in Nob Hill about the BRT/ART. One at Yanni's in 2013, two at MVCC in 2014 and 2015. In addition, Bruce Rizzeri with ABQ attended a NHNA Board meeting to take comment and answer questions. All of these meetings were either advertised over this list-serv or published in our agendas. Also, two articles about the ART and where to give input were published in two editions our NHNA Newsletter that is hand delivered to every household and business in Nob Hill.I don't have a problem with people being opposed to the ART, but there is quite lot of invalid and unsubstantiated information being passed around over this list-serv and Nextdoor by the opposition. Whatever your position, you should be well-informed by both sides of the issue. Here is a link that may help you do that....
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