On Jun 29, 2020, at 4:40 PM, Nick Wilson via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:Albuquerque Social Club is still open, but they allow smoking indoors so it’s not really a good option for many lgbt people. I will say they do have good air circulation though, for a smoking friendly place.The new Sidewinders 4200 location is bright and open, it has a patio that faces Central like O’Neills pub does (but much smaller), and a large dedicated parking lot.Here are some of the activities typical of Sidewinders- so you know it’s not similar to Imbibe: Country dancing, drag shows, competitive pageants, a ton of community fundraisers, etc. and yes, beer, wine and cocktails. The owners are regularly there and are very present in the community.For those of you who are on the fence, I hope you can see why it’s not just another nightclub.-Nicole--On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 4:21 PM kingkb via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:I had no idea of the type of club ~ I only remember hearing, quite a while back, of a disturbance or shooting in the parking lot.
Thanks for the added information! What about parking?
Good to know imbibe is no longer active. What happened to the Albuquerque Social Club?
_______________________________________________On Jun 29 2020 3:30 PM, Juan Carlos Holmes via Neighbors_nobhill-nm wrote:
I strongly disagree; Sidewinders is a culturally vital business. There are very few places available to non-straight persons to socialize, and Sidewinders has always been a safe place. They have also caused no disturbances, and have provided not only a way to socialize without feeling like one is in a meat market (which is the implication I personally glean from the seemingly derisive use of "nightclub" above), but also a much needed performance venue for many local artists. To compare Sidewinders to the thankfully defunct and notoriously dangerous Imbibe is to woefully misunderstand the nature of Renato and Michael's business, and to woefully misunderstand the needs of an entire segment of our local community.Incidentally, if anyone actually looks at a map, there are two private clubs and one bar already in the immediate area. Adding one more place with an established history of not being disruptive to their local neighborhood and that brings a genuinely supportive clientele to the neighborhood can only be a bonus.--Juan Carlos Holmes
On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 2:57 PM Dennis Trujillo via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:I tend to agree with Karen’s assessment._______________________________________________Dennis
On Jun 29, 2020, at 2:14 PM, kingkb via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
_______________________________________________Hi Gary and Neighbors,
I don't know a lot about business, but my gut reaction is that I would strongly prefer to NOT have this type of business at this address.
While they may have had no liquor citations, it will be open too late and, from all appearances, be a nightclub. "They want a new location" means Sidewinders, with large crowds, right in our residential area. The problems with the other nightclub (nearer the University) strongly suggests this is a wrong direction for our neighborhood quality of living.
Thanks for the opportunity to give input!
Karen King
On Jun 29 2020 1:46 PM, Gary and Melodie Eyster via Neighbors_nobhill-nm wrote:
Nob Hill Neighbors,
Your association received the attached notice of request for transfer of liquor license location late last week. Hearing is July 8.
When we receive these we send them to our email list to gather input. When input is neutral or positive we generally don’t develop an association position. When neighbors express questions or concerns we seek the information. If there is strong concern, we call a special board meeting to explore developing an association position.
I called the agent, Kyla Stoker. She said the operators of the business are Michael Burdick and Renato Burdick. They operated the Sidewinder’s business on Central east of Wyoming starting in 2017. She said they did not receive any alcohol service citations. They wanted a new location.
She provided the attached menu which they are now serving at 4200 Central Ave. with no alcohol.
She said current hours are noon-9 pm. Once allowed by governmental authorities they will be open noon-2am. (She said hours of operation are not part of the liquor license transfer of location.)
Feel free to call Ms. Stoker. I told her about our email list so she may address questions here on the email list.
Feel free to provide written comments to the hearing officer or attend the hearing whether the association takes a position or not.
Kind regards,
Gary Eyster
President, Nob Hill Neighborhood Association
(505)991-1388
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