Thank you Robert and Dennis, but let's keep things realistic we don't need emails speaking in platitudes.   The people whose homes surround this tent have lost value in their homes and have to worry about security.  No one will want to buy or rent a home where a tent is in their back alley.  Especially women and families with children. 

But I have a solution.  Rob and Dennis, what's your addresses?  I'll tell the person in the tent that he can live and poop and pee in your yard.  I'm serious.  And when they start screaming at you, cursing you out, starting a fire that could destroy your property, breaking into your home, please provide an update on how things are going. 

Yes, we all want to help homeless people, but "poor luck?" Can we please stop absolving many of these people of ANY responsibility for how they got where they are?  It's one bad choice after another (I'm not speaking of the mentally ill, we should absolutely help those people).  

We absolutely need more decent police officers and I am so very thankful for the decent ones that do their best in a very difficult job. 

Here's what I do not see.  I do not see WHO on the Nob Hill board is responsible for walking around our neighborhood and noting these violations and reporting them to 311.  Who is that person?  Do they need help?  My wife and I are offering.  

Thank you, 

Michael  

On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 10:34 PM Dennis Trujillo <dptrujillo@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for your response Robert. It is a complex problem that seems to have no easy solution. In your first paragraph, you reference our “war based city,” part of the military industrial complex. There is a high  concentration of very smart folks at Sandia Lab and other military facilities, whose engineering expertise might be redirected to the issue of homelessness as a national security issue. Knowledge, wisdom and compassion are needed to help solve this growing national problem. Thanks again for redirecting our thoughts from simple knee jerk reactions to a search for real solutions.

D

On Jan 29, 2024, at 9:51 PM, Robert L Anderson via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:

I would hope that people in our community realize that the Wall Street economy and war based city we live in does not work for everyone, especially those with poor luck and disabilities.  Reports of economic recovery only refers to the upper classes and high-tech income levels.  For most of us it has no real bearing, for some it means more problems.

I would like to see our community put pressure on the city for some extra special outreach with help for the people who might be living in tents in alleys instead of calling for police actions.  As we have seen this does not solve the problem of the class divide around us.  As you know from reports in the paper tearing down the tents only makes the un-housed move to someplace else.

What our community needs is more help for the un-housed, not more cops.  The city needs to admit this is a problem that is going to be with us awhile and open more on location centers to reach out to these people and help them with whatever they need, right here in Nob Hill.  

The present solution is to trash the tents, a home to some, take their personal property, and ship people out to an old jail by Double Eagle Airport.  Would you want to go a place like that?  You know, out of sight-out of mind.  That plan has been a failure.  People who want a little dignity and care don’t want to be put in old prison by a sewage treatment plant. The Lovelace facility on Gibson is an attempt but is not large enough nor targeted for the seriously unhoused population who are all over the city.

A good place to start would be to contact with a positive plan would be our city councilor and the mayor.

Here are their email addresses:

Keller Mayor Tim <mayorkeller@cabq.gov>

"Rogers, Nichole L." <nrogers@cabq.gov>

Regards.

Bob Anderson

_________________________________________________________________________________

On Jan 29, 2024, at 11:18 AM, Drew via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:

Hello neighbors,

The moment I see an encampment, I report it on the ABQ 311 app.  

I recommend everyone download it and use it for graffiti, damaged street signs, streetlight outages, abandoned shopping carts, needles, and of course, encampments.

It's very fast and convenient to use, I can have something reported in under a minute, no waiting on the phone.

Best,

Drew

On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 8:01 AM Mike P. via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:

Good morning, 

Thank you Gary for your response below.  Please see the attached photos.  It's a tent behind a law firm on Wellesley (right near Central).  Further to my email below about our preparation in Nob Hill if homeless start putting up tents everywhere, we saw this tent in the alley on Wellesley this Saturday.  We told our Portland friends and they said this is exactly how it starts.  There should not be any camping in any alley way (it's illegal and it's dangerous and it brings down property values of any home nearby) in our neighborhood.   Who in our neighborhood association reports this to the police or the business?  If you need help my wife and I would like to help.  We are truly concerned that we are not focused on this issue as much as we should be and by the time we get focused on it it will be too late.  If homeless people in vans/RV's take over our parks and alleys no new business will come and it will hurt the businesses that are here in Nob Hill.  We can have compassion and not allow the homeless to ruin our neighborhood.  

Thank you, 

Mike P. 

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: <neighbors_nobhill-nm-request@mailman.swcp.com>
Date: Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 12:00 PM
Subject: Neighbors_nobhill-nm Digest, Vol 143, Issue 19
To: <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com>

Send Neighbors_nobhill-nm mailing list submissions to
        neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com

To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
        https://mailman.swcp.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/neighbors_nobhill-nm

or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
        neighbors_nobhill-nm-request@mailman.swcp.com

You can reach the person managing the list at
        neighbors_nobhill-nm-owner@mailman.swcp.com

When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than "Re: Contents of Neighbors_nobhill-nm digest..."


Today's Topics:

   1. Public Safety in Nob Hill (Gary Eyster)
   2. Re: Public Safety in Nob Hill (Meta Hirschl)
   3. Re: Public Safety in Nob Hill (Weiser Dan)
   4. Re: Public Safety in Nob Hill, Locking mailboxes (Gary Eyster)


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message: 1
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2024 16:53:07 -0700
From: "Gary Eyster" <meyster1@me.com>
To: "'Mike P.'" <moonpie785@gmail.com>, <neighbors@nobhill-nm.com>
Subject: [Neighbors] Public Safety in Nob Hill
Message-ID: <014001da50b2$dabcad90$903608b0$@me.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

All very good points. Thanks for the dialogue.

As you see in the thread below we had a good discussion with APD CMDR Ray Del Greco this week. 40 neighbors participated.



One of our directors, Daniel Carlos, is energizing our Public Safety Committee.

You will see an announcement from him in the next couple weeks about a meeting of his committee.

PLEASE, all neighbors,  come out and give him a hand with this important work!



Gary L. Eyster

President, Nob Hill Neighborhood Association

(505)991-1388

meyster1@me.com <mailto:meyster1@me.com>











From: Neighbors_nobhill-nm [mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm-bounces@mailman.swcp.com] On Behalf Of Mike P. via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 11:28 AM
To: neighbors@nobhill-nm.com
Subject: Re: [Neighbors] Homeless; Neighbors_nobhill-nm Digest, Vol 143, Issue 15





Hello Neighbors,



Thank you John for pointing this out.  My wife and I are growing increasingly concerned that our neighborhood is not prepared to combat homeless people or people who want to park and live out of their vans on our Nob Hill streets as if it was a campground.  We need to pay attention to this issue, because a nightmare happened to our friends in Portland who bought a beautiful home in a neighborhood like ours.  There is not anyone who wants a camper van (usually a piece of garbage) parked in front of their home where the occupants empty their poop and pee on the street.  This happened to our friends and they lost hundreds of thousands on their home when they finally had to move.  We are in SW Nob Hill  and we are noticing camper vans in driveways and on the streets, and I'm sorry, but no commercial vehicle or camping van/trailer should be parked in anyone's driveway and definitely not on the street.  I'm watching as other associations in other cities make rules regarding this a!
 nd I think we should also.  Homeless people living in their vans on our streets should be a real concern also and let's not wait until it's a real problem and then it's too difficult to fix.  All huge RV's and camper vans on streets and parked in front yards do is bring down our property values.  And trust our friends from Portland, once it gets out of hand, and this can happen very quickly, it's difficult to fix.  Get those homeless people out of Wellesley and Silver now.  Contact that owner and get them out of there and if he/she doesn't respond, call the city.  Next they will stop living outside and start occupying houses for sale, houses where there is a seasonal owner.  There is no embellishment here, this could easily happen here if we do not get on top of this issue.



Sincerely,



Mike







From: <neighbors_nobhill-nm-request@mailman.swcp.com <mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm-request@mailman.swcp.com> >
Date: Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 12:00?PM
Subject: Neighbors_nobhill-nm Digest, Vol 143, Issue 15
To: <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com <mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com> >



Send Neighbors_nobhill-nm mailing list submissions to
        neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com <mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com>

To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
        https://mailman.swcp.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/neighbors_nobhill-nm

or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
        neighbors_nobhill-nm-request@mailman.swcp.com <mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm-request@mailman.swcp.com>

You can reach the person managing the list at
        neighbors_nobhill-nm-owner@mailman.swcp.com <mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm-owner@mailman.swcp.com>

When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than "Re: Contents of Neighbors_nobhill-nm digest..."


Today's Topics:

   1. Re: 300 block of Montclaire NE (JOHN ALBERTY)


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message: 1
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 08:32:40 -0700 (MST)
From: JOHN ALBERTY <johnalberty@comcast.net <mailto:johnalberty@comcast.net> >
To: Greg Weirs <vgweirs@gmail.com <mailto:vgweirs@gmail.com> >, Greg Weirs via
        Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com <mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com> >,
        lisalopez0511@gmail.com <mailto:lisalopez0511@gmail.com>
Cc: BJ Hartford <bjdragonfly1@gmail.com <mailto:bjdragonfly1@gmail.com> >, neighbors@nobhill-nm.com <mailto:neighbors@nobhill-nm.com>
Subject: Re: [Neighbors] 300 block of Montclaire NE
Message-ID: <449135953.1466171.1706023960252@connect.xfinity.com <mailto:449135953.1466171.1706023960252@connect.xfinity.com> >
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I was out of town over much of the holidays and My neighbor just contacted me about a homeless encampment on the property on Silver and Wellesley. Currently owned by Mr. Earnest Cohen and supposedly managed by Consensus Planning INC. My concern is to how that property is being managed if the encampment was allowed to be set up there in the first place. It doesn't speak very well for the current owner as to his concerns for the neighborhood. I hadn't read any news about this situation from other neighbors so am writing this to see if anyone has any information. Thanks. John Alberty

> On 01/21/2024 11:11 PM MST Greg Weirs via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com <mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com> > wrote:
> 
> 
>
> Hi Lisa,
> 
> In short, yes, APD is working to reduce crime in our area, and yes, there are additional things we can do as residents. It turns out that the NHNA is hosting an outreach meeting with several speakers from APD on resources for public safety and crime prevention on Tuesday, January 23rd, 6:30pm, at Monte vista Christian Church.
> https://www.nobhill-nm.com/news/special-membership-meeting-on-public-safety-and-bylaws-amendments/
> This is an excellent opportunity to have all your questions answered. Bring your neighbors!
> 
> Greg
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 2:06?PM lisalopez0511--- via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com <mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com>  mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com <mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com> > wrote:
>
> > Hi neighbors
> > One of my neighbors had his storage broken into 2 nights in a row.   One of the break ins was at 730 in the evening.   They took some really expensive tools / power equipment.   The scary part is that they came back a second time.   On the same block of Montclaire a vehicle was stolen in the same week.
> > This is very concerning.   Other than vandalism I?ve never heard of this many incidents in one week on the same block.
> > Please be vigilant
> > Also.  Any idea if APD is doing anything to reduce crime in our area or are we just to fend for ourselves?
> >
> > Lisa Lopez
> > _______________________________________________
> > Neighbors_nobhill-nm mailing list
> > Neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com <mailto:Neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com>  mailto:Neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com <mailto:Neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com>
> > https://mailman.swcp.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/neighbors_nobhill-nm
> > This Message Sent To: vgweirs@gmail.com <mailto:vgweirs@gmail.com>  mailto:vgweirs@gmail.com <mailto:vgweirs@gmail.com>
> >
>
> 
> --
> Greg Weirs
> 505 515 6334 (M)
> vgweirs@gmail.com <mailto:vgweirs@gmail.com>  mailto:vgweirs@gmail.com <mailto:vgweirs@gmail.com>
> _______________________________________________
> Neighbors_nobhill-nm mailing list
> Neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com <mailto:Neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com>
> https://mailman.swcp.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/neighbors_nobhill-nm
> This Message Sent To: johnalberty@comcast.net <mailto:johnalberty@comcast.net>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mailman.swcp.com/pipermail/neighbors_nobhill-nm/attachments/20240123/8075ffdb/attachment-0001.htm>

------------------------------

Subject: Digest Footer

_______________________________________________
Neighbors_nobhill-nm mailing list
Neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com <mailto:Neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com>
https://mailman.swcp.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/neighbors_nobhill-nm


------------------------------

End of Neighbors_nobhill-nm Digest, Vol 143, Issue 15
*****************************************************






--

Greg Weirs

505 515 6334 (M)
vgweirs@gmail.com <mailto:vgweirs@gmail.com>

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mailman.swcp.com/pipermail/neighbors_nobhill-nm/attachments/20240126/2a18b61d/attachment-0001.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image001.jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 7196 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://mailman.swcp.com/pipermail/neighbors_nobhill-nm/attachments/20240126/2a18b61d/attachment-0001.jpg>

------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2024 19:04:45 -0700
From: Meta Hirschl <metaji.prajna@gmail.com>
To: Gary Eyster <meyster1@me.com>
Cc: "Mike P." <moonpie785@gmail.com>, neighbors@nobhill-nm.com
Subject: Re: [Neighbors] Public Safety in Nob Hill
Message-ID:
        <CAHrZO7GwfDAf0bQnBNQX4NccXick9vMd+mVarmNipNPx=eMSBg@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Thank you to the leadership for organizing such a terrific meeting.
Especially thank you to Lucille for the delish and healthy food. We are so
lucky!
Meta.

Meta Hirschl
*There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there
must never be a time when we fail to protest.* -Elie Wiesel


On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 5:22?PM Gary Eyster via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <
neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:

> All very good points. Thanks for the dialogue.
>
> As you see in the thread below we had a good discussion with APD CMDR Ray
> Del Greco this week. 40 neighbors participated.
>
>
>
> One of our directors, Daniel Carlos, is energizing our Public Safety
> Committee.
>
> You will see an announcement from him in the next couple weeks about a
> meeting of his committee.
>
> PLEASE, all neighbors,  come out and give him a hand with this important
> work!
>
>
>
> *Gary L. Eyster*
>
> *President, Nob Hill Neighborhood Association*
>
> *(505)991-1388*
>
> *meyster1@me.com <meyster1@me.com>*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Neighbors_nobhill-nm [mailto:
> neighbors_nobhill-nm-bounces@mailman.swcp.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike P. via
> Neighbors_nobhill-nm
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 25, 2024 11:28 AM
> *To:* neighbors@nobhill-nm.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Neighbors] Homeless; Neighbors_nobhill-nm Digest, Vol
> 143, Issue 15
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello Neighbors,
>
>
>
> Thank you John for pointing this out.  My wife and I are growing
> increasingly concerned that our neighborhood is not prepared to combat
> homeless people or people who want to park and live out of their vans on
> our Nob Hill streets as if it was a campground.  We need to pay attention
> to this issue, because a nightmare happened to our friends in Portland who
> bought a beautiful home in a neighborhood like ours.  There is not anyone
> who wants a camper van (usually a piece of garbage) parked in front of
> their home where the occupants empty their poop and pee on the street.
> This happened to our friends and they lost hundreds of thousands on their
> home when they finally had to move.  We are in SW Nob Hill  and we are
> noticing camper vans in driveways and on the streets, and I'm sorry, but no
> commercial vehicle or camping van/trailer should be parked in anyone's
> driveway and definitely not on the street.  I'm watching as
> other associations in other cities make rules regarding this and I think we
> should also.  Homeless people living in their vans on our streets should be
> a real concern also and let's not wait until it's a real problem and then
> it's too difficult to fix.  All huge RV's and camper vans on streets and
> parked in front yards do is bring down our property values.  And trust our
> friends from Portland, once it gets out of hand, and this can happen very
> quickly, it's difficult to fix.  Get those homeless people out of Wellesley
> and Silver now.  Contact that owner and get them out of there and if he/she
> doesn't respond, call the city.  Next they will stop living outside and
> start occupying houses for sale, houses where there is a seasonal owner.
> There is no embellishment here, this could easily happen here if we do not
> get on top of this issue.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: <neighbors_nobhill-nm-request@mailman.swcp.com>
> Date: Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 12:00?PM
> Subject: Neighbors_nobhill-nm Digest, Vol 143, Issue 15
> To: <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com>
>
>
>
> Send Neighbors_nobhill-nm mailing list submissions to
>         neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>
> https://mailman.swcp.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/neighbors_nobhill-nm
>
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>         neighbors_nobhill-nm-request@mailman.swcp.com
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
>         neighbors_nobhill-nm-owner@mailman.swcp.com
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of Neighbors_nobhill-nm digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>    1. Re: 300 block of Montclaire NE (JOHN ALBERTY)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 08:32:40 -0700 (MST)
> From: JOHN ALBERTY <johnalberty@comcast.net>
> To: Greg Weirs <vgweirs@gmail.com>, Greg Weirs via
>         Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com>,
>         lisalopez0511@gmail.com
> Cc: BJ Hartford <bjdragonfly1@gmail.com>, neighbors@nobhill-nm.com
> Subject: Re: [Neighbors] 300 block of Montclaire NE
> Message-ID: <449135953.1466171.1706023960252@connect.xfinity.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I was out of town over much of the holidays and My neighbor just contacted
> me about a homeless encampment on the property on Silver and Wellesley.
> Currently owned by Mr. Earnest Cohen and supposedly managed by Consensus
> Planning INC. My concern is to how that property is being managed if the
> encampment was allowed to be set up there in the first place. It doesn't
> speak very well for the current owner as to his concerns for the
> neighborhood. I hadn't read any news about this situation from other
> neighbors so am writing this to see if anyone has any information. Thanks.
> John Alberty
>
> > On 01/21/2024 11:11 PM MST Greg Weirs via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <
> neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Lisa,
> >
> > In short, yes, APD is working to reduce crime in our area, and yes,
> there are additional things we can do as residents. It turns out that the
> NHNA is hosting an outreach meeting with several speakers from APD on
> resources for public safety and crime prevention on Tuesday, January 23rd,
> 6:30pm, at Monte vista Christian Church.
> >
> https://www.nobhill-nm.com/news/special-membership-meeting-on-public-safety-and-bylaws-amendments/
> > This is an excellent opportunity to have all your questions answered.
> Bring your neighbors!
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 2:06?PM lisalopez0511--- via
> Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com mailto:
> neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi neighbors
> > > One of my neighbors had his storage broken into 2 nights in a row.
>  One of the break ins was at 730 in the evening.   They took some really
> expensive tools / power equipment.   The scary part is that they came back
> a second time.   On the same block of Montclaire a vehicle was stolen in
> the same week.
> > > This is very concerning.   Other than vandalism I?ve never heard of
> this many incidents in one week on the same block.
> > > Please be vigilant
> > > Also.  Any idea if APD is doing anything to reduce crime in our area
> or are we just to fend for ourselves?
> > >
> > > Lisa Lopez
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Neighbors_nobhill-nm mailing list
> > > Neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com mailto:
> Neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com
> > > https://mailman.swcp.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/neighbors_nobhill-nm
> > > This Message Sent To: vgweirs@gmail.com mailto:vgweirs@gmail.com
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Greg Weirs
> > 505 515 6334 (M)
> > vgweirs@gmail.com mailto:vgweirs@gmail.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > Neighbors_nobhill-nm mailing list
> > Neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com
> > https://mailman.swcp.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/neighbors_nobhill-nm
> > This Message Sent To: johnalberty@comcast.net
> >
> -------------- next part --------------
> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> URL: <
> http://mailman.swcp.com/pipermail/neighbors_nobhill-nm/attachments/20240123/8075ffdb/attachment-0001.htm
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: Digest Footer
>
> _______________________________________________
> Neighbors_nobhill-nm mailing list
> Neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com
> https://mailman.swcp.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/neighbors_nobhill-nm
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of Neighbors_nobhill-nm Digest, Vol 143, Issue 15
> *****************************************************
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Greg Weirs
>
> 505 515 6334 (M)
> vgweirs@gmail.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Neighbors_nobhill-nm mailing list
> Neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com
> https://mailman.swcp.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/neighbors_nobhill-nm
> This Message Sent To: metaji.prajna@gmail.com
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mailman.swcp.com/pipermail/neighbors_nobhill-nm/attachments/20240126/69a2b4a1/attachment-0001.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image001.jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 7196 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://mailman.swcp.com/pipermail/neighbors_nobhill-nm/attachments/20240126/69a2b4a1/attachment-0001.jpg>

------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2024 10:10:06 +0000 (UTC)
From: Weiser Dan <buddew7@yahoo.com>
To: Gary Eyster <meyster1@me.com>, Meta Hirschl
        <metaji.prajna@gmail.com>
Cc: "Mike P." <moonpie785@gmail.com>, "neighbors@nobhill-nm.com"
        <neighbors@nobhill-nm.com>
Subject: Re: [Neighbors] Public Safety in Nob Hill
Message-ID: <763620776.881195.1706350206848@mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Gary, et. all; Is their Special Lock Boxes we could get to secure our mail (letters) so transients walking through our neighborhoods do not take our mail or is the only solution; A UPS Store or similar service? ?Thanks for allowing me to add 1 Request I have dealt with in my neighborhood.
Dan Weiser

    On Friday, January 26, 2024, 11:05:32 PM MST, Meta Hirschl via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com> wrote: 

 Thank you to the leadership for organizing such a terrific meeting. Especially thank you to Lucille for the delish and healthy food. We are so lucky!Meta.

Meta HirschlThere may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest.?-Elie Wiesel


On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 5:22?PM Gary Eyster via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:


All very good points. Thanks for the dialogue.

As you see in the thread below we had a good discussion with APD CMDR Ray Del Greco this week. 40 neighbors participated.

?

One of our directors, Daniel Carlos, is energizing our Public Safety Committee.

You will see an announcement from him in the next couple weeks about a meeting of his committee.

PLEASE, all neighbors, ?come out and give him a hand with this important work!

?

Gary L. Eyster

President, Nob Hill Neighborhood Association

(505)991-1388

meyster1@me.com

?



?

?

?

From: Neighbors_nobhill-nm [mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm-bounces@mailman.swcp.com] On Behalf Of Mike P. via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 11:28 AM
To: neighbors@nobhill-nm.com
Subject: Re: [Neighbors] Homeless; Neighbors_nobhill-nm Digest, Vol 143, Issue 15

?


?


Hello Neighbors,?

?

Thank you John for pointing this out.? My wife and I are growing increasingly concerned that our neighborhood is not prepared to combat homeless people or people?who want to park and live out of their vans on our Nob Hill streets as if it was a campground.? We need to pay attention to this issue, because a nightmare happened to our friends in Portland who bought a beautiful home in a neighborhood like ours.? There is not anyone who wants a camper van (usually a piece of garbage) parked in front of their home where the occupants?empty their poop and pee on the street.? This happened to our friends and they lost hundreds of thousands?on their home when they finally had to move.? We are in SW Nob Hill ?and we are noticing camper vans in driveways and on the streets, and I'm sorry, but no commercial vehicle or camping van/trailer should be parked in anyone's driveway and definitely not on the street.? I'm watching as other?associations in other cities make rules regarding this a!
 nd I think we should also.? Homeless people living in their vans on our streets should be a real concern also and let's not wait until it's a real problem and then it's too difficult to fix.? All huge RV's and camper vans on streets and parked in front yards do is bring down our property values.? And trust our friends from Portland, once it gets out of hand, and this can happen very quickly, it's difficult to fix.? Get those homeless people out of Wellesley and Silver now.? Contact that owner and get them out of there and if he/she doesn't respond, call the city.? Next they will stop living outside and start occupying houses for sale, houses where there is a seasonal owner.? There is no embellishment here, this could easily happen here if we do not get on top of this issue.?

?

Sincerely,?

?

Mike

?

?


?

From: <neighbors_nobhill-nm-request@mailman.swcp.com>
Date: Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 12:00?PM
Subject: Neighbors_nobhill-nm Digest, Vol 143, Issue 15
To: <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com>



Send Neighbors_nobhill-nm mailing list submissions to
? ? ? ? neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com

To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
? ? ? ? https://mailman.swcp.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/neighbors_nobhill-nm

or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
? ? ? ? neighbors_nobhill-nm-request@mailman.swcp.com

You can reach the person managing the list at
? ? ? ? neighbors_nobhill-nm-owner@mailman.swcp.com

When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than "Re: Contents of Neighbors_nobhill-nm digest..."


Today's Topics:

? ?1. Re: 300 block of Montclaire NE (JOHN ALBERTY)


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message: 1
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 08:32:40 -0700 (MST)
From: JOHN ALBERTY <johnalberty@comcast.net>
To: Greg Weirs <vgweirs@gmail.com>, Greg Weirs via
? ? ? ? Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com>,
? ? ? ? lisalopez0511@gmail.com
Cc: BJ Hartford <bjdragonfly1@gmail.com>, neighbors@nobhill-nm.com
Subject: Re: [Neighbors] 300 block of Montclaire NE
Message-ID: <449135953.1466171.1706023960252@connect.xfinity.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I was out of town over much of the holidays and My neighbor just contacted me about a homeless encampment on the property on Silver and Wellesley. Currently owned by Mr. Earnest Cohen and supposedly managed by Consensus Planning INC. My concern is to how that property is being managed if the encampment was allowed to be set up there in the first place. It doesn't speak very well for the current owner as to his concerns for the neighborhood. I hadn't read any news about this situation from other neighbors so am writing this to see if anyone has any information. Thanks. John Alberty

> On 01/21/2024 11:11 PM MST Greg Weirs via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>?
>?
>
> Hi Lisa,
>?
> In short, yes, APD is working to reduce crime in our area, and yes, there are additional things we can do as residents. It turns out that the NHNA is hosting an outreach meeting with several speakers from APD on resources for public safety and crime prevention on Tuesday, January 23rd, 6:30pm, at Monte vista Christian Church.
> https://www.nobhill-nm.com/news/special-membership-meeting-on-public-safety-and-bylaws-amendments/
> This is an excellent opportunity to have all your questions answered. Bring your neighbors!
>?
> Greg
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 2:06?PM lisalopez0511--- via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi neighbors
> > One of my neighbors had his storage broken into 2 nights in a row.? ?One of the break ins was at 730 in the evening.? ?They took some really expensive tools / power equipment.? ?The scary part is that they came back a second time.? ?On the same block of Montclaire a vehicle was stolen in the same week.
> > This is very concerning.? ?Other than vandalism I?ve never heard of this many incidents in one week on the same block.
> > Please be vigilant
> > Also.? Any idea if APD is doing anything to reduce crime in our area or are we just to fend for ourselves?
> >
> > Lisa Lopez
> > _______________________________________________
> > Neighbors_nobhill-nm mailing list
> > Neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com mailto:Neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com
> > https://mailman.swcp.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/neighbors_nobhill-nm
> > This Message Sent To: vgweirs@gmail.com mailto:vgweirs@gmail.com
> >
>
>?
> --
> Greg Weirs
> 505 515 6334 (M)
> vgweirs@gmail.com mailto:vgweirs@gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> Neighbors_nobhill-nm mailing list
> Neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com
> https://mailman.swcp.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/neighbors_nobhill-nm
> This Message Sent To: johnalberty@comcast.net
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mailman.swcp.com/pipermail/neighbors_nobhill-nm/attachments/20240123/8075ffdb/attachment-0001.htm>

------------------------------

Subject: Digest Footer

_______________________________________________
Neighbors_nobhill-nm mailing list
Neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com
https://mailman.swcp.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/neighbors_nobhill-nm


------------------------------

End of Neighbors_nobhill-nm Digest, Vol 143, Issue 15
*****************************************************






?

--

Greg Weirs

505 515 6334 (M)
vgweirs@gmail.com

_______________________________________________
Neighbors_nobhill-nm mailing list
Neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com
https://mailman.swcp.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/neighbors_nobhill-nm
This Message Sent To: metaji.prajna@gmail.com

_______________________________________________
Neighbors_nobhill-nm mailing list
Neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com
https://mailman.swcp.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/neighbors_nobhill-nm
This Message Sent To: buddew7@yahoo.com

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mailman.swcp.com/pipermail/neighbors_nobhill-nm/attachments/20240127/126c9155/attachment-0001.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image001.jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 7196 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://mailman.swcp.com/pipermail/neighbors_nobhill-nm/attachments/20240127/126c9155/attachment-0001.jpg>

------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2024 11:46:50 -0700
From: "Gary Eyster" <meyster1@me.com>
To: <neighbors@nobhill-nm.com>
Subject: Re: [Neighbors] Public Safety in Nob Hill, Locking mailboxes
Message-ID: <023e01da5151$3126d400$93747c00$@me.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Dan asked about locking mailboxes.

I have seen these at www.uline.com <http://www.uline.com>

and www.mailboxes.com <http://www.mailboxes.com>

#VivaNobHill

Gary





From: Weiser Dan [mailto:buddew7@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2024 3:10 AM
To: Gary Eyster <meyster1@me.com>; Meta Hirschl <metaji.prajna@gmail.com>
Cc: Mike P. <moonpie785@gmail.com>; neighbors@nobhill-nm.com
Subject: Re: [Neighbors] Public Safety in Nob Hill



Gary, et. all; Is their Special Lock Boxes we could get to secure our mail (letters) so transients walking through our neighborhoods do not take our mail or is the only solution; A UPS Store or similar service?  Thanks for allowing me to add 1 Request I have dealt with in my neighborhood.



Dan Weiser





On Friday, January 26, 2024, 11:05:32 PM MST, Meta Hirschl via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com <mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com> > wrote:





Thank you to the leadership for organizing such a terrific meeting. Especially thank you to Lucille for the delish and healthy food. We are so lucky!

Meta.



Meta Hirschl

There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest. -Elie Wiesel





-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mailman.swcp.com/pipermail/neighbors_nobhill-nm/attachments/20240127/52edf11d/attachment-0001.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image002.jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 4492 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://mailman.swcp.com/pipermail/neighbors_nobhill-nm/attachments/20240127/52edf11d/attachment-0001.jpg>

------------------------------

Subject: Digest Footer

_______________________________________________
Neighbors_nobhill-nm mailing list
Neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com
https://mailman.swcp.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/neighbors_nobhill-nm


------------------------------

End of Neighbors_nobhill-nm Digest, Vol 143, Issue 19
*****************************************************

_______________________________________________
Neighbors_nobhill-nm mailing list
Neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com
https://mailman.swcp.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/neighbors_nobhill-nm
This Message Sent To: drewlynde@gmail.com

_______________________________________________
Neighbors_nobhill-nm mailing list
Neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com
https://mailman.swcp.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/neighbors_nobhill-nm
This Message Sent To: citizen@comcast.net

<image.png>

_______________________________________________
Neighbors_nobhill-nm mailing list
Neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com
https://mailman.swcp.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/neighbors_nobhill-nm
This Message Sent To: dptrujillo@gmail.com