[Awclist] Big Mama Chama

Fri May 21 18:45:07 MDT 2010

I ran Upper Chama/El Puente/Big Mama Thursday (May 20).  It was running approx. 1500 cfs.  Checked out El Vado north ramp at approx. 7:30 am, and the gate was open.  I hid my folding bicycle there, and drove pickup to launch site.  The run took approx. 3 hrs, stopping to scout only the dam and Big Mama.  No significant log jams.  Ran Big Mama on left.  Biked back to put-in in about 1 hr. 40 min.

Lee Hall    

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From: Wes Moore <Wes at superiormortgage-nm.com>
To: Robert Southwick <rsouthwick at shamanproducts.com>; Jayne Plikerd <jplikerd at msn.com>; timscofi at comcast.net; awclist at swcp.com
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Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 1:44:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Awclist] Big Mama Chama

Planning on rafting the racecourse @ Pilar on Sunday.  Just gonna drive up from ABQ & then drive back.  No exact time yet.  Only about a 90 minute run.

It is flowing at 1150 cfs.

You are invited to bring your boat & come along.  Raft, kayak, canoe, inner tube, whatever………..

Rio Chama Monastery to Big Eddy at apprx 400 right now.  Don’t know if they will do a release this afternoon or not.  Rafts need at least 800.

J

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From:awclist-bounces at swcp.com [mailto:awclist-bounces at swcp.com] On Behalf Of Robert Southwick
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:30 PM
To: 'Jayne Plikerd'; timscofi at comcast.net; awclist at swcp.com
Subject: Re: [Awclist] Big Mama Chama

http://southwestpaddler.com/docs/riograndenm13.html
For those new to the upper Chama or Big Mamma Chama
This might help in description but perhaps Tim or Plikerds could also shed light on the  put- in and take outs, do your own shuttle but where is it ok to park cars/trailers etc…..
Celia

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From:awclist-bounces at swcp.com [mailto:awclist-bounces at swcp.com] On Behalf Of Jayne Plikerd
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:22 PM
To: timscofi at comcast.net; awclist at swcp.com
Subject: Re: [Awclist] Big Mama Chama

hey Tim, 

A friend and i ran the upper Chama a few weeks ago on a monday, it was about 2500 cfs. we saw fences but none spanning the river, and none we had to get out of our boats to negotiate. There are a couple cables spanning the river, you should have plenty of room to get under these, too. Big Mama Chama unobstructed by snags, but plenty on top of the big rock.
are you going to run on sunday, too? i work friday until 8pm.

At the takeout, north el vado launch ramp, which we had not gone to before our run, The gate was locked about a quarter mile from the ramp, so we had to hump our gear past the gate. I called el vado state park and asked about opening the gate, and he said it should be open soon. i advise you call them to check this before the weekend.

see ya on the river,

eric
> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 20:49:34 -0600
> From: timscofi at comcast.net
> To: awclist at swcp.com
> Subject: [Awclist] Big Mama Chama
> 
> Planning to run the Big Mama Chama this Saturday. It's mostly class II 
> with some 3, and I've also come across the occasional fence.
> 
> If anyone's interested let me know. I would like to keep the group down 
> to a manageable size.
> 
> Tim
> 265-4853
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