[Awclist] Big Mama Chama

Sun May 23 21:23:48 MDT 2010

Good question. Will it get higher? Or, is this it? My buddy from Boulder cancelled his trip to Taos 'cause he says he doesn't want to raft the box below 2000. Howard n I ran the racecourse today at 1140 cfs and it was fun. He in his IK n me in my 14' oar rig. A friend called last night n said the Animas town run is rockin at 3600! I did it May 2nd at 1000. Probably headed to Durango this weekend if Box doesn't come up. :) 
Sent from my Crackberry :)

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From: Mark Jankowski 
To: Wes Moore 
Cc: Robert Southwick ; Jayne Plikerd ; timscofi at comcast.net ; awclist at swcp.com ; michaelwoolley257 at hotmail.com 
Sent: Sun May 23 21:18:50 2010
Subject: Re: [Awclist] Big Mama Chama 

Hi, Speaking of river levels, does anybody have any insight as to why the Rio Grande has been so low this year (so far)? Lots of ag diversion up stream near Alamosa? 
Thanks,
Mark (Santa Fe)

On May 21, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Wes Moore wrote:

	Planning on rafting the racecourse @ Pilar on Sunday.  Just gonna drive up from ABQ & then drive back.  No exact time yet.  Only about a 90 minute run.

	It is flowing at 1150 cfs.

	You are invited to bring your boat & come along.  Raft, kayak, canoe, inner tube, whatever………..

	Rio Chama Monastery to Big Eddy at apprx 400 right now.  Don’t know if they will do a release this afternoon or not.  Rafts need at least 800.

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	From: awclist-bounces at swcp.com [mailto:awclist-bounces at swcp.com] On Behalf Of Robert Southwick
	Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:30 PM
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	Subject: Re: [Awclist] Big Mama Chama

	http://southwestpaddler.com/docs/riograndenm13.html
	For those new to the upper Chama or Big Mamma Chama
	This might help in description but perhaps Tim or Plikerds could also shed light on the  put- in and take outs, do your own shuttle but where is it ok to park cars/trailers etc…..
	Celia

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	From: awclist-bounces at swcp.com [mailto:awclist-bounces at swcp.com] On Behalf Of Jayne Plikerd
	Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:22 PM
	To: timscofi at comcast.net; awclist at swcp.com
	Subject: Re: [Awclist] Big Mama Chama

	hey Tim, 

	A friend and i ran the upper Chama a few weeks ago on a monday, it was about 2500 cfs. we saw fences but none spanning the river, and none we had to get out of our boats to negotiate. There are a couple cables spanning the river, you should have plenty of room to get under these, too. Big Mama Chama unobstructed by snags, but plenty on top of the big rock.
	are you going to run on sunday, too? i work friday until 8pm.

	At the takeout, north el vado launch ramp, which we had not gone to before our run, The gate was locked about a quarter mile from the ramp, so we had to hump our gear past the gate. I called el vado state park and asked about opening the gate, and he said it should be open soon. i advise you call them to check this before the weekend.

	see ya on the river,

	eric
	> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 20:49:34 -0600
	> From: timscofi at comcast.net
	> To: awclist at swcp.com
	> Subject: [Awclist] Big Mama Chama
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	> Planning to run the Big Mama Chama this Saturday. It's mostly class II 
	> with some 3, and I've also come across the occasional fence.
	> 
	> If anyone's interested let me know. I would like to keep the group down 
	> to a manageable size.
	> 
	> Tim
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