[Awclist] New Mexico Boating Safety Laws affecting kayakers

Kelly Gossett kwgossett at yahoo.com
Wed Sep 8 23:14:04 MDT 2010


All,

If you've ever participated in the Rio Grande Great Raft Race, you know 
New Mexico has some pretty obscure boating safety laws, particularly 
those that apply to whitewater kayaks, and some rafts.  I've spent the 
last several weeks working with NM State Parks to understand why the 
laws are the way they are, and with the ACA (Public Policy attorney) to 
see if change is possible.  



Below is a series of discussions between me and the ACA where you can 
see the law, my issue with the law (as a kayaker) and the Public Policy 
attorney's comments and suggestions to have the laws changed.



There is some momentum behind this effort. NM State Parks has asked for my comments to the laws, and any oversights I've made 
regarding canoe, kayak or raft safety should be brought to light soon, 
so I can communicate this to both parties.  The ACA is attending the NASBLA 
(National Association of State Parks Boating Safety Laws Admin) conference next 
week, and time has been specifically set aside to meet with the NM 
agencies regarding these laws.



If you know of an angle I've not already highlighted, please let me know asap.



Thank you,

Kelly
505-217-2187

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Paul Sanford <psanford at americancanoe.org>
Date: Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: Obscure New Mexico Laws
To: Kelly Gossett <kelly at newmexicokayakinstruction.com>
Cc: Jeremy Oyen <joyen at americancanoe.org>




  
    
  
  
    You make some good points, Kelly. I've asked Jeremy to incorporate
    this into his discussions with NM people. We'll return to this after
    the conference. 

    

    On 9/7/10 9:34 PM, Kelly Gossett wrote:
    Paul & Jeremy,

      Thanks for your reply.  My concern with the bilge pump & bail
      bucket is more for whitewater kayaks, self-bailing rafts and SOT
      kayaks (self-bailing SOTs have been cited for not having bail
      buckets or bilge pumps; this is ridiculous).  A bilge pump and/or
      bail bucket in a whitewater kayak is not practical, and sponges
      are not compliant with the law. Similarly, self-bailing rafts, and
      self-bailing SOTs should be exempted from the law.  Unless,
      there's a very practical reason for whitewater, self bailing rafts
      and self bailing SOTs to carry a bilge pump or 1-gallon bucket,
      I'd ask that Jeremy discuss this at the NASBLA conference. 

      

      Thank you both,

      Kelly

      

      On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Paul
        Sanford <psanford at americancanoe.org>
        wrote:

        
           Kelly, I had a chance
            to look at this today. Sorry for the delay, but I've been on
            vacation. It's that time of year. 

            

            I looked for the source of the requirements you referred to
            in your message. They are as follows:

            

            1)    The Type IV carry requirement is in the NM
            Administrative Code, Section 18.17.2.9(A)(1). Go here and scroll down to paragraph 9.
            This requirement exceeds the requirements in the USCG regs,
            which exempt canoes and kayaks. However, the Coast Guard
            regs specifically allow states to impose more stringent
            requirements (by disclaiming any type of federal preemption
            regarding lifejackets and canoes and kayaks). 

            

            2)    The stout rope requirement is in the NM state statute
            at 66-12-7(A)(4) (follow the link and
            click on the section in the left column). 

            

            3)    The bailer/pump requirement is also in the statute at
            66-12-7(A)(3). 

            

            In general, administrative rules are easier to change than
            statutes. Statutes can only be changed by act of the state
            legislature, whereas administrative rules can generally be
            changed by a state agency. 

            

            For these reasons, I'd say there is a better chance of
            movement on the Type IV requirement. Most states exempt
            canoes and kayaks from the Type IV requirement, and you make
            a good point that carrying one is often impractical for
            kayakers. Not some much for canoes, though. Of course, if
            the state agency is strongly committed to the rule, even
            that may be a challenge. 

            

            Jeremy will be traveling to the NASBLA conference this week.
            He is going to talk to the folks from NM and hear what they
            have to say about this. I am asking him to specifically
            inquire about the possibility of changing the Type IV carry
            requirement, at least for those canoes and kayaks for which
            carry is impractical. 

            

            Changing the rope and pump/bailer requirement will take a
            different approach. You would need a legislator who would be
            willing to champion this cause and introduce a bill that
            exempts canoes and kayaks from these provisions of state
            law. Realistically, I think such a person will be difficult
            to find. These are, on their face, boating safety
            requirements, and you would need to convince a legislator
            that compliance is MORE dangerous than an exemption. I think
            that will be a challenge.  

            

            This may disappoint you, but I must tell you that it will be
            difficult for ACA to push hard for repeal of these
            requirements, because we advocate for the carriage and use
            of ropes, bailers and pumps in most of our safety materials.
            We might not like that people are being ticketed for not
            having them, but it will be tricky for us to object unless
            we can make a compelling case that requiring them is
            excessive in all circumstances. I do not think we will be
            able to do that. It would be risky to argue that throw ropes
            are dangerous when in the hands of beginners, because the
            answer might be to require beginners to have the training
            necessary to make them competent, resulting in more
            requirements rather than less. 

            

            However, let's wait and see what Jeremy finds out from the
            Agency people at the conference. If they are sympathetic to
            our concerns and would be willing to support modification of
            the statute along these lines, there might be a way to go
            this. 

            

            In the meantime, perhaps some creative ways to comply would
            be in order. Have you considered collapsible buckets? These might fit
            in a pfd pocket, and would probably satisfy the requirements
            of the statute. 

            
               

                

                On 8/27/10 11:52 AM, Kelly Gossett wrote:
                Hi Paul, 

                  Over the last few weeks, I've devoured the New Mexico
                  State Parks Boating Safety laws.  There are three
                  primary issues I have with these laws.

                  

                  The PFD link below summarizes them.

                  http://www.boat-ed.com/nm/nm_ specific_images/pdfs/nm_ required_equipment_table.pdf

                  

                  According to this document ('the law') every
                      kayak should have a type I, II or III PFDs and one
                          additional Type IV (throwable device) onboard
                          and readily available. 

                        Where are we supposed to put it?

                          Stout rope - must be at least the length of the
                      vesselSome rangers say this should be attached to
                        the boat, others say it can be stowed below the
                        deck. Either way, it seems like a hazard.  Some
                        rangers argue the problem is easily solved if
                        every paddler carries a tow- or rescue
                        rope...but I argue few beginners or recreational
                        paddlers know how to use these.  Bailing bucket or hand-operated bilge pump -
                      bailing bucket must be at least one gallon in
                      capacity

                    sponges do not fit the definitionself-bailing SOTs must also have a bailing
                        bucket
                  It appears to me that these laws were written for
                  rafts, possibly canoes, PWCs etc, but are being
                  enforced on kayakers.  Many kayakers have been written
                  citations for noncompliance with these three laws, and
                  it is frustrating to try to build a safer, stronger,
                  more active community, only to have it destroyed in a
                  single outting for laws that are unsafe.  Please take
                  a look at this and let me know how else I can assist
                  in the changing of these laws.

                  

                  Thanks,

                  Kelly

                  

                  -- 

                  New Mexico Kayak Instruction, Inc.

                  505-217-2187, office

                  505-803-2201, cell

                  www.newmexicokayakinstruction. com

                
                

              
            
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                Paul Sanford
                Director of Stewardship
                    & Public Policy
                General Counsel
                American Canoe Association
                108 Hanover Street
                Fredericksburg VA 22401
                (p) 540.907.4460 x106
                (f) 888.229.3792
                psanford at americancanoe.org
                www.americancanoe.org
              
            
          
        
      
      

      

      

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      New Mexico Kayak Instruction, Inc.

      505-217-2187, office

      505-803-2201, cell

      www.newmexicokayakinstruction. com

    
    

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        Paul Sanford
        Director of Stewardship &
            Public Policy
        General Counsel
        American Canoe Association
        108 Hanover Street
        Fredericksburg VA 22401
        (p) 540.907.4460 x106
        (f) 888.229.3792
        psanford at americancanoe.org
        www.americancanoe.org
      
    
  




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New Mexico Kayak Instruction, Inc.
505-217-2187, office
505-803-2201, cell
www.newmexicokayakinstruction.com




--- On Wed, 9/8/10, Kelly Gossett <kwgossett at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Kelly Gossett <kwgossett at yahoo.com>
Subject: 
To: "AWC Listserve" <awclist at swcp.com>
Cc: "Mary Scofield" <flipline at comcast.net>, "Sarah  McMahon" <smcmaho at pnm.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 8, 2010, 8:13 AM











      


      
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