[Awclist] Rio Chama

[Sara Traub]

I also vote for 3 weekends at 800. 

Sara Traub

--- On Thu, 2/23/12, Robert Southwick <rsouthwick at shamanproducts.com> wrote:

From: Robert Southwick <rsouthwick at shamanproducts.com>
Subject: Re: [Awclist] Rio Chama
To: "'Wes Moore'" <Wes at superiormortgage-nm.com>, "'Tim Scofield'" <timscofi5 at gmail.com>
Cc: "'Frank Walsh'" <h2opro801 at q.com>, awclist at swcp.com
Date: Thursday, February 23, 2012, 1:11 PM



 
 

I second that - Celia Southwick



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Subject: Re: [Awclist] Rio 
Chama



3 weekends at 800.  












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Wes Moore
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On Feb 21, 2012, at 10:16 PM, "Tim Scofield" <timscofi5 at gmail.com> 
wrote:




  I never received a response to the email below about flows. 

Given 
  that the Bureau will try to have a flushing flow (hopefully 5k in a good water 
  year) in the spring, and a limited amount of water, what release flows would 
  you like to see later in the season when there is minimal water in the Rio 
  Grande? Would you rather boat one weekend at 2400cfs or three weekends at 
  800cfs or 4 weekends at 600cfs? (Or some other flow level)

Tim


  On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Tim Scofield <timscofi5 at gmail.com> 
wrote:

  The rafters that said that the trip went too fast above 
    1000 cfs were private boaters from Colorado.

I personally just spend 
    more time exploring when the water's high. 

The way I see it, It's 
    really a question of at what point would you not bother going 
    kayaking/rafting/canoeing assuming that the RIo has already peaked and is 
    down to a couple hundred. At what point would you not bother to even go up 
    to the Chama. 

There will be a weekend or two that get a peaking flow 
    in the spring to try to maintain a healthy ecosystem, but this section of 
    the Chama is below El Vado, and they're going to try to store as much water 
    as they can as high up as they can. So we're not going to see really big 
    flows like we've ocassionaly seen on the Rio Grande. They doe have some 
    storage in Abiqu lake, but it is somewhat limited for various 
    reasons.

The question is would you rather boat one weekend at 2400cfs 
    or three weekends at 800cfs or 4 weekends at 600cfs. Assuming that there's 
    enough water for any releases at all. 

It's also problem if they 
    don't keep at least 150 cfs in the river at all times, which they sometimes 
    don't, because the whole ecosystem up there starts to 
    suffer.

Tim


    
    On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 8:32 PM, monica a. martin <orangely at yahoo.com> wrote:

    
      
      
      
      I think it's time to point out the commercial boater 
      perspective: many have had to boat this river with customers and their 
      gear in 14-15 foot rafts in the 200's.  This certainly isn't 
      ideal.  Many comfortably boat it at 500cfs.  If you get to do it 
      at 1000cfs, you've got it posh.  Anything above 600cfs works pretty 
      nicely and many of us find it enjoyable in work or play at this 
      level.  Isn't maneuvering around rocks part of what makes it 
      interesting?
      

      Monica & Josh

      
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