[Awclist] Rio Chama

Sat Feb 25 10:46:29 MST 2012

Awesome.  Good for y'all.   :)
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-----Original message-----
From: Peggy Robey <robeyfamily at earthlink.net>
To: Steve Harris <steve.harris39 at gmail.com>, Sara Traub  
<sara_traub at yahoo.com>
Cc: 'Frank Walsh' <h2opro801 at q.com>, 'Wes Moore'  
<Wes at superiormortgage-nm.com>,  awclist at swcp.com
Sent: Sat, Feb 25, 2012 17:28:13 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [Awclist] Rio Chama

Well considering we got a permit for July 4th weekend, we'd like the 3 day  
weekends...
peggy and bob robey

At 08:47 AM 2/25/2012, Steve Harris wrote:
>SARA and all:  Thanks for responding.  A couple of questions: Would it
>make sense that these 3 weekend would aim toward 3 day holidays
>(Memorial Day, 4th of July, Labor Day) or avoid them?  What about the
>idea of encouraging more weekday trips?  Is that impractical for most
>ABQ boaters?
>
>Steve Harris
>Rio Grande Restoration
>HCR 69 Box 3-C
>Embudo, NM 87531
>
>home/office: 575-751-1269
>fax: same
>Mobile: 575-770-2502
>
>steve.harris39 at gmail.com
>
>
>
>On Feb 24, 2012, at 9:50 PM, Sara Traub wrote:
>
> > I also vote for 3 weekends at 800.
> >
> > Sara Traub
> >
> > --- On Thu, 2/23/12, Robert Southwick
> > <rsouthwick at shamanproducts.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Robert Southwick <rsouthwick at shamanproducts.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Awclist] Rio Chama
> > To: "'Wes Moore'" <Wes at superiormortgage-nm.com>, "'Tim Scofield'" >  
<timscofi5 at gmail.com
> > >
> > Cc: "'Frank Walsh'" <h2opro801 at q.com>, awclist at swcp.com
> > Date: Thursday, February 23, 2012, 1:11 PM
> >
> > I second that - Celia Southwick
> >
> > From: awclist-bounces at swcp.com [mailto:awclist-bounces at swcp.com] On
> > Behalf Of Wes Moore
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:40 AM
> > To: Tim Scofield
> > Cc: Frank Walsh; awclist at swcp.com
> > Subject: Re: [Awclist] Rio Chama
> >
> > 3 weekends at 800.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > Wes Moore
> > VP/Partner/Sr. Loan Officer
> > Superior Mortgage Services, LLC
> > NMLS #205189
> > (505) 249-4506 cell
> > www.moore4yourmoney.com
> >
> > On Feb 21, 2012, at 10:16 PM, "Tim Scofield" <timscofi5 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I never received a response to the email below about flows.
> >>
> >> Given that the Bureau will try to have a flushing flow (hopefully
> >> 5k in a good water year) in the spring, and a limited amount of
> >> water, what release flows would you like to see later in the season
> >> when there is minimal water in the Rio Grande? Would you rather
> >> boat one weekend at 2400cfs or three weekends at 800cfs or 4
> >> weekends at 600cfs? (Or some other flow level)
> >>
> >> Tim
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Tim Scofield
> >> <timscofi5 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> The rafters that said that the trip went too fast above 1000 cfs
> >> were private boaters from Colorado.
> >>
> >> I personally just spend more time exploring when the water's high.
> >>
> >> The way I see it, It's really a question of at what point would you
> >> not bother going kayaking/rafting/canoeing assuming that the RIo
> >> has already peaked and is down to a couple hundred. At what point
> >> would you not bother to even go up to the Chama.
> >>
> >> There will be a weekend or two that get a peaking flow in the
> >> spring to try to maintain a healthy ecosystem, but this section of
> >> the Chama is below El Vado, and they're going to try to store as
> >> much water as they can as high up as they can. So we're not going
> >> to see really big flows like we've ocassionaly seen on the Rio
> >> Grande. They doe have some storage in Abiqu lake, but it is
> >> somewhat limited for various reasons.
> >>
> >> The question is would you rather boat one weekend at 2400cfs or
> >> three weekends at 800cfs or 4 weekends at 600cfs. Assuming that
> >> there's enough water for any releases at all.
> >>
> >> It's also problem if they don't keep at least 150 cfs in the river
> >> at all times, which they sometimes don't, because the whole
> >> ecosystem up there starts to suffer.
> >>
> >> Tim
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 8:32 PM, monica a. martin
> >> <orangely at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> I think it's time to point out the commercial boater perspective:
> >> many have had to boat this river with customers and their gear in
> >> 14-15 foot rafts in the 200's.  This certainly isn't ideal.  Many
> >> comfortably boat it at 500cfs.  If you get to do it at 1000cfs,
> >> you've got it posh.  Anything above 600cfs works pretty nicely and
> >> many of us find it enjoyable in work or play at this level.  Isn't
> >> maneuvering around rocks part of what makes it interesting?
> >>
> >> Monica & Josh
> >>
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