[NMCycling] North Diversion Trail Underpass Dangers

Thu Sep 22 15:59:16 MDT 2016

Is this worth a call to 911 now that it's dangerous? I've been calling 
242COPS but that gets low priority.

On Thu, 22 Sep 2016, Craig M. Doolittle via Bike-racers wrote:

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> 10 adults under the Diversion Channel/Montgomery bridge this morning at 8:25am.  A little nerve wracking.
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> From: Patricio Lujan [mailto:patlujan at aol.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 6:55 AM
> To: powergwa at aol.com; Craig M. Doolittle
> Cc: bike-racers at swcp.com
> Subject: Re: [NMCycling] North Diversion Trail Underpass Dangers
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> Same problems here in Denver but on a much larger scale; some of the Strava segment names in Denver  describe the problems
> areas that exist on the Platte River and Cherry Creek paths.  On a positive Albuquerque does not appear to have this...yet:
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> http://www.denverpost.com/2015/10/12/needle-disposal-kiosk-installed-along-cherry-creek-trail-in-denver/
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> Pat
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> From: powergwa via Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com>
> To: Craig M. Doolittle <cdoolittle at ara.com>
> Cc: Bike-Racers <bike-racers at swcp.com>
> Sent: Mon, Sep 19, 2016 3:51 pm
> Subject: Re: [NMCycling] North Diversion Trail Underpass Dangers
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> I was  through there this weekend and there were ~8 adults present and at least a few were v. blasted. I believe at least some
> are helpless and need relocation to a safer spot both for them and riders. In time someone will be hurt at that location. 
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> Several weeks ago a well-known local amateur golfer who recreationally rides a bike some was riding through the Eubank
> underpass tunnel on the E-W bike trail and hit a recently homeless placed mattress; concussion ( w helmet), face lacerations,
> broken collarbone and ribs. Again he didn't properly account for the lighting change and poor vision as he entered the
> tunnel. 
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> Yes, more expert riders pick up on these kind of things but on the general public bike trail I think it's behooves all of us
> to try to keep them as safe as possible. I made a mental note Saturday to call 311 ASAP on this matter .....but then you
> climb, you're at Tramway rtc. and that 311 action slips away. 🚴🏾💤 
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> I'm going to make a note of contacting 311 whenever I see that problem there or @ other underpass locations. 
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> Jack Groves
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> Energy Southwest Inc
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> On Sep 19, 2016, at 2:58 PM, Craig M. Doolittle via Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
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>       Wow!  I called about glass, rocks, pizza box, etc. on the Paseo bridge over the RG, and was told they would notify
>       the department in charge, the department in charge would go look at it, then they had 30 days to act on it.  That
>       was ~2 weeks ago.  Glass, rocks, pizza box, etc. all still on the bridge!
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> You must have some pull!
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> My wife used to ride to work with me, and then ride back home alone.  She has quite doing that as she has gotten some
> "dirty looks" from the people under the bridge, and is now afraid (although some of them seem very friendly, always
> saying hello).  I on the other hand am more worried about them stepping back and me hitting them.  However, I do get
> pretty nervous if there are 3, 4 or more of them in a group.
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> From: Bike-racers [mailto:bike-racers-bounces at mailman.swcp.com] On Behalf Of Blayne Greiner via Bike-racers
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:50 PM
> To: Jimmy Griego
> Cc: Bike-Racers
> Subject: Re: [NMCycling] North Diversion Trail Underpass Dangers
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> As a side note, Remember to call 311 and report these kinds of things (especially trash) . The City is fairly responsive
> to citizen complaints and anything that gets a 311 call is usually moved to the top of the to-do list. I called 311
> about glass that was on the bike lane on the lead and coal bridges downtown and they had a street sweeper hit it the
> same day.
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>       On Sep 19, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Jimmy Griego via Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
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>  TOTALLY AGREE I COMMUTE AND RIDE THE BIKE TRAIL JUST SOUTH OF I40 AND THERE ARE SO MANY TENTS AND SHOPPING CARTS
> , NOT TO MENTION TRASH THAT ITS SCAREY. IM SURE THESE POOR SOULS NEED A PLACE TO STAY. THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER
> WAY FOR THEM AND THE PEOPLE USING THE PATHS, I WOUNDER IF WE ALL GOT TO GETHER TO VOLUNTEER TO PICK UP THE TRASH.
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> On Monday, September 19, 2016 12:42 PM, RDCipoletti--- via Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
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> That situation has existed to one degree or another (seemingly, depending upon the season) for several years.
> Realistically, there really isn't much that could be done to control their behavior, since their only apparent
> crime is substance abuse. Although disconcerting, they, as far as I know, have never represented a threat to
> cyclists or runners, which is more than can be said for most humanoid hazards. Their presence certainly warrants
> slowing down and anticipating the unexpected - just as one would when approaching inattentive cyclists with
> headphones. On the other hand, I have seen the conscious ones readily move to the side, and even say hello on
> occasion. I've always suspected that the signs that advise you that you're riding there at your own risk might, in
> some part, be a reference to that particular hazard. I also think it's perfectly natural to be intimidated by
> their presence, and find that injecting a little sympathy into the equation helps to calm the nerves. Besides,
> it's nowhere near as scary as approaching the blind underpass at Montano on the Bosque trail, where two descending
> cyclists in the same lane could spell the end of your life as you know it.
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> Once I saw two people sitting on the ground with their legs fully extended in the middle of the tunnel adjacent to
> Paseo just N of Rio Grande. They were absolutely invisible in the dark of the tunnel, and thankfully I was in the
> opposite lane. I recommend entering that tunnel at a very conservative speed.
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> bob
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> From: "iHuman via Bike-racers" <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com>
> To: "NM Cycling" <bike-racers at swcp.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 11:31:52 AM
> Subject: [NMCycling] North Diversion Trail Underpass Dangers
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> Does anyone know if anything can be done about people sleeping and/or partying on the bike path underpasses?
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> Recently, when I ride the north diversion channel there are groups of people at the bottom of the underpass near
> Montgomery and the as well as the underpass just north of that. I was riding on Saturday and there were two people
> sleeping in the middle of the bike path on the southbound lane, a group of 3 standing in the northbound lane
> visiting with one another, and a group of about 10 about 20 feet away in the southbound lane sitting on the bike
> path - seemingly oblivious to bikes.
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> This is a disaster waiting to happen. Both for cyclists - and those sitting/sleeping on the path. (I do mean ON
> the path, and not off to the side).
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> thanks for your assistance!
> elaine
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