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Sun Jul 12 09:42:06 MDT 2020
Love it...it’s your medical genius.
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On Saturday, July 11, 2020, husen_brian via Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
Found it.
Brian
-------- Original message --------From: Neil McCasland via Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> Date: 7/10/20 6:32 PM (GMT-07:00) To: matthewchanin at yahoo.com Cc: Bike Racers <bike-racers at swcp.com>, Bob Perls via Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> Subject: Re: [NMCycling] Crit 7/14 canceled, maybe write the governor.—copy of my letter to Grisham.
All - I do want to support the outcomes our Gov seeks, and accept & respect that many of the tools she has are blunt. And the importance of avoiding negative impressions of us.
While some kind of well reasoned criteria for outdoors (work or exercise) seems sensible and worth exploring and advocating,
For now - who’s found a good flowing mask-band that one can breath thru running or cycling? Tolerably while not preferably?
Keeping eye on the prize - sustained health & life!
Neil
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On Jul 10, 2020, at 6:18 PM, Matt Chanin via Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
Agree. This should start a shit storm.
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On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 5:58 PM, Bob Perls via Bike-racers<bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote: Totally agree. I think the issue is logic. If we can sit at a patio 6 feet from 4 people with no masks then riding alone with no mask seems not a problem. I wear a mask all the time in public. I support the Governor’s leadership. The interval example is a case in point where some common sense needs to prevail.
Thanks Bob
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> On Jul 10, 2020, at 5:48 PM, Patrick R via Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
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> Cycling community,
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> Other counties completely banned outdoor activities and now those countries are reopening while the United States has thus far failed embarrassingly at controlling the spread of the virus. How about you stop trying to carve out exceptions to your hobbies and start setting an example that we can make personal sacrifices to control the spread of this disease? Or alternatively, keep pretending that your right to do intervals on the road is the political fight of our generation and write the governor saying as much.
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> Thanks,
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> -Patrick
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>> On Jul 10, 2020, at 5:16 PM, Nathan Masek via Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
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>> The other point we need to keep in mind is that policy is that a general policy is applied to the entirety of teh population, which includes the weekend riders as well as athletes training, and ultimately organized events/races.
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>> Following this discussion, it seems clear that there should be specific policy applied to cycling, ie, general versus organized events. This way, the distinctions can be made if presented clearly and succinctly.
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>> Either way, it is going to be complicated and there will be folks who will abuse the policy/guidance/law. It is in the interest of all cyclists that we be the responsible example to the rest of the community.
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>> Nathan
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>>>> On Jul 10, 2020, at 5:06 PM, Nathan Masek <masekclan at me.com> wrote:
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>>> Agreed, a great letter. And, since our s[port and activity is quite varied, what John S followed up with is good advice as well.
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>>> As a community, we should tread forward in policy suggestions lightly but responsibly to show we care about public safety.
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>>> Nathan
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>>>>> On Jul 10, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Jeffrey Fleming via Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
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>>>> Great letter Geoff.
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>>>> JF
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>>>>> On Jul 10, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Geoff Mather via Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
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>>>>> Here’s my letter to Governor Grisham about outdoor exercise. Pls feel free to copy any or all of it.
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>>>>>> Dear Govenor Grisham:
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>>>>>> I applaud your efforts to make decisions based in science, not politics, to help our community fight the spread of COVID-19. Therefore I fully support the requirement to wear face masks in public, including while exercising indoors. However, I don't believe the science we currently understand supports your new requirement to wear a mask while exercising OUTDOORS.
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>>>>>> How did your administration come to the conclusion that it is safe to eat in an outdoor restaurant without a mask, next to other people, but not to run or ride your bike without a mask on our streets or bike trails? High-intensity cardio exercises like running or riding a bike with a mask are as difficult as eating with a mask on. A mask simply blocks too much air while exercising.
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>>>>>> I’d like to suggest an alternative that is more evidence-based policy: require social distancing from any other person while exercising outdoors without a mask. Your administration has appropriately deemed some business “essential.“ As a former public health official, you understand that jogging, running and riding a bike are essential to one’s physical and mental health. I ask that you review your policy and reconsider outdoor exercise “essential” to enabling community health and allow it to be done without a mask but with more restrictive social distancing.
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>>>>>> Respectfully,
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>>>>>> Geoff Mather
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>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2020, at 11:27 AM, hawke morgan via Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
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>>>>>> I do not think we can do the Crit ITT with masks.
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>>>>>> If you disagree with the new maskless exercising ban I would encourage you to write Mrs Grisham.
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>>>>>> Here is the link. https://www.governor.state.nm.us/contact-the-governor/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is my letter:
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>>>>>> Dear Govenor Grisham:
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>>>>>> I am opposed to the ban on maskless exercising. This is just not rational. It is legal to eat out maskless on a patio and not legal to run or ride your bike maskless 200ft from any other human being. There is no way math or science makes that rational. A more rational mandate might be to keep 20ft from any other person while exercising maskless. Most of th
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