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1. Fwd: The Fall Blaze is back! (Jack Groves via Bike-racers)
2. Re: Bike theft questions (Tim Brown via Bike-racers)
3. Re: Bike theft questions (Sam Rynas via Bike-racers)
4. Re: Bike theft questions (Timothy C. Holm via Bike-racers)
5. Re: Bike theft questions (Beth Olsen via Bike-racers)
6. Re: Bike theft questions (Dave Iltis via Bike-racers)
7. Re: Bike theft questions (Rich Walters via Bike-racers)
8. Re: Bike theft questions (clarkj79 via Bike-racers)
9. TommyKnocker10 - today is the last day to register
(Seth Bush via Bike-racers)
10. Bike Thief... (John Price via Bike-racers)
11. Re: Bike theft questions (Rich Walters via Bike-racers)
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Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 14:39:57 -0500
Subject: [NMCycling] Fwd: The Fall Blaze is back!
FYI-Jack Groves
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Sent: Thu, Mar 1, 2018 11:16 am
Subject: The Fall Blaze is back!
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The Blaze is back!
Last held in 2015, FLC’s popular annual Fall Blaze Bicycle Tour is back on the road! This year’s tour kicks off on Saturday, September 29, with a cannon blast and a police escort. All three ride options are followed by a party on campus.The Fall Blaze is not a race -- it's a chance for FLC community members, supporters, friends, alumni, students, staff, and anyone else who just loves to ride to enjoy a fun and safe scenic group tour through the autumn colors of southwestern Colorado – all while supporting the student athletes on the nationally ranked Skyhawks cycling team.The Fall Blaze is open to cyclists of all skill levels and abilities, offering tour options of 37, 60, and 100 miles. All three fully-supported rides set off from campus and include food and aid stations, support vehicles, and a party at the finish line back in the center of campus.All proceeds benefit the Fort Lewis College Cycling Scholarship, awarded to men’s and women’s cycling team members with at least a 2.50 GPA and who are also active in the community. Awards range from $500 to $1,000.
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Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 12:48:40 -0700
Subject: Re: [NMCycling] Bike theft questionsI had one bike stolen off a friend's front porch while dropping something off. I was inside for less than five minutes, so now I'm a stickler for locking with a U-lock always, no matter how long.My sister has had two unlocked bikes stolen out of her garage when she left the door open.A friend had his cable locked bike stolen from outside O'Neill's.A friend had his stolen off his car in a supposed watched valet lot. He made a conscious choice to leave the bike unlocked because it's worth much less than the damage to the car would have been if someone were to pry the rack off the roof. That one had a happy ending as he saw it on Craigslist, met the seller, and called the cops.On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 10:02 AM, Jackie Shane via Bike-racers <bike-racers@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:Two bikes stolen, but never with a u-lock.JackieOn Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Diane Albert via Bike-racers <bike-racers@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:I had 2 bikes stolen because I left the garage door open (Uptown)
I had a bike stolen outside the UNM Law school front entrance because I had it locked with a cable, not u lock.
Diane
From: Bike-racers [mailto:bike-racers-bounces@mailman.swcp.com] On Behalf Of John Vance via Bike-racers
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 9:30 AM
To: mike
Cc: Bike-Racers
Subject: Re: [NMCycling] Bike theft questions
I've had an empty Yakima rack stolen off a car in my driveway via the crowbar method. Remember that the rack itself is worth some coin. The car next to it also had a Yakima rack, but with rain gutter mounts and they couldn't pry those off. They ruined the trim on the car trying though. Three bikes stolen from my parent's garage a couple of decades ago. They took one because my dad left the garage door open. A couple of weeks later they came back when nobody was home and collected the rest.
Right now all my bikes are locked up in the garage. Like you said, I'm hoping that will slow them down enough to where it isn't worth it. Maybe they won't just smash or hacksaw the frames to collect the components.
On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 9:11 AM, mike via Bike-racers <bike-racers@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
In the interest of conversation, I’ve been wondering about keeping my bikes from getting stolen by learning from other’s tragedies.
It seems like mostly the stolen bikes have had a cable cut.
How many have lost a bike that’s had a chain or U-lock cut/broken?
I’ve heard of lots of the bikes taken off of racks. I’m assuming these are racks that hold bikes with both wheels attached. How many bikes have been stolen where the bikes are attached with a fork mount (with the front wheel removed)?
My theory is that it’s easy to just ride a bike away, but the extra time it takes to defeat the lock AND remove the fork from a rack makes my bike a less attractive target. Especially if there’s no front wheel to ride away on. It is a couple extra steps to secure the bike, however, for me it’s worth it. Yes, they can steal the bike with no front wheel, but it’s not as attractive as an entire bike.
It depends on how much your bike or bling on your bike is worth.
I wonder about bikes stolen from garages. Are both wheels on the bike in the garage?
Even in the garage, I take the front wheel off. If I’m gone for any length of time I lock my bikes with a chain. Although inside the garage a thief has much more time to defeat my security.
The bottom line is that anything can be stolen. The trick is to make my stuff not worth the extra effort. Thieves are looking for an easy target. My task is to balance the effort to secure my stuff with the effort to use it.
What systems have worked? Have you found evidence of someone attempting to steal your bike, but were defeated? What was your system?
Just wonderin’
mike lucero
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Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 12:58:46 -0700
Subject: Re: [NMCycling] Bike theft questionsBrandon had one stolen - Cable lock in ABQI had one attempted theft, U lock, they couldnt break it.On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 12:48 PM, Tim Brown via Bike-racers <bike-racers@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:I had one bike stolen off a friend's front porch while dropping something off. I was inside for less than five minutes, so now I'm a stickler for locking with a U-lock always, no matter how long.My sister has had two unlocked bikes stolen out of her garage when she left the door open.A friend had his cable locked bike stolen from outside O'Neill's.A friend had his stolen off his car in a supposed watched valet lot. He made a conscious choice to leave the bike unlocked because it's worth much less than the damage to the car would have been if someone were to pry the rack off the roof. That one had a happy ending as he saw it on Craigslist, met the seller, and called the cops.On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 10:02 AM, Jackie Shane via Bike-racers <bike-racers@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:Two bikes stolen, but never with a u-lock.JackieOn Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Diane Albert via Bike-racers <bike-racers@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:I had 2 bikes stolen because I left the garage door open (Uptown)
I had a bike stolen outside the UNM Law school front entrance because I had it locked with a cable, not u lock.
Diane
From: Bike-racers [mailto:bike-racers-bounces@mailman.swcp.com] On Behalf Of John Vance via Bike-racers
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 9:30 AM
To: mike
Cc: Bike-Racers
Subject: Re: [NMCycling] Bike theft questions
I've had an empty Yakima rack stolen off a car in my driveway via the crowbar method. Remember that the rack itself is worth some coin. The car next to it also had a Yakima rack, but with rain gutter mounts and they couldn't pry those off. They ruined the trim on the car trying though. Three bikes stolen from my parent's garage a couple of decades ago. They took one because my dad left the garage door open. A couple of weeks later they came back when nobody was home and collected the rest.
Right now all my bikes are locked up in the garage. Like you said, I'm hoping that will slow them down enough to where it isn't worth it. Maybe they won't just smash or hacksaw the frames to collect the components.
On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 9:11 AM, mike via Bike-racers <bike-racers@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
In the interest of conversation, I’ve been wondering about keeping my bikes from getting stolen by learning from other’s tragedies.
It seems like mostly the stolen bikes have had a cable cut.
How many have lost a bike that’s had a chain or U-lock cut/broken?
I’ve heard of lots of the bikes taken off of racks. I’m assuming these are racks that hold bikes with both wheels attached. How many bikes have been stolen where the bikes are attached with a fork mount (with the front wheel removed)?
My theory is that it’s easy to just ride a bike away, but the extra time it takes to defeat the lock AND remove the fork from a rack makes my bike a less attractive target. Especially if there’s no front wheel to ride away on. It is a couple extra steps to secure the bike, however, for me it’s worth it. Yes, they can steal the bike with no front wheel, but it’s not as attractive as an entire bike.
It depends on how much your bike or bling on your bike is worth.
I wonder about bikes stolen from garages. Are both wheels on the bike in the garage?
Even in the garage, I take the front wheel off. If I’m gone for any length of time I lock my bikes with a chain. Although inside the garage a thief has much more time to defeat my security.
The bottom line is that anything can be stolen. The trick is to make my stuff not worth the extra effort. Thieves are looking for an easy target. My task is to balance the effort to secure my stuff with the effort to use it.
What systems have worked? Have you found evidence of someone attempting to steal your bike, but were defeated? What was your system?
Just wonderin’
mike lucero
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Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 20:00:15 +0000
Subject: Re: [NMCycling] Bike theft questions
This e-mail may be a confidential attorney-client communication. If you received it in error, please delete it without forwarding it to others and notify the sender of the error.I had a bike stolen from my garage when I left my garage door open. Then I had another bike stolen when I left my garage door open again ….
My favorite was an attempted bike theft right outside the nasty Chinese food place that was near where Central and Lomas meet. Person left bike outside by window of restaurant and placed order. Homeless dude sauntered up and got on bike and started riding away. The owner of the restaurant and the 3 schmuck customers (self included) ran him down and got bike back, with owner of restaurant cussing the thief out in Chinese.
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Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:49 PM
To: Bike-Racers
Subject: Re: [NMCycling] Bike theft questions
***
I had one bike stolen off a friend's front porch while dropping something off. I was inside for less than five minutes, so now I'm a stickler for locking with a U-lock always, no matter how long.
My sister has had two unlocked bikes stolen out of her garage when she left the door open.
A friend had his cable locked bike stolen from outside O'Neill's.
A friend had his stolen off his car in a supposed watched valet lot. He made a conscious choice to leave the bike unlocked because it's worth much less than the damage to the car would have been if someone were to pry the rack off the roof. That one had a happy ending as he saw it on Craigslist, met the seller, and called the cops.
On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 10:02 AM, Jackie Shane via Bike-racers <bike-racers@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
Two bikes stolen, but never with a u-lock.
Jackie
On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Diane Albert via Bike-racers <bike-racers@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
I had 2 bikes stolen because I left the garage door open (Uptown)
I had a bike stolen outside the UNM Law school front entrance because I had it locked with a cable, not u lock.
Diane
From: Bike-racers [mailto:bike-racers-bounces@mailman.swcp.com] On Behalf Of John Vance via Bike-racers
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 9:30 AM
To: mike
Cc: Bike-Racers
Subject: Re: [NMCycling] Bike theft questions
I've had an empty Yakima rack stolen off a car in my driveway via the crowbar method. Remember that the rack itself is worth some coin. The car next to it also had a Yakima rack, but with rain gutter mounts and they couldn't pry those off. They ruined the trim on the car trying though. Three bikes stolen from my parent's garage a couple of decades ago. They took one because my dad left the garage door open. A couple of weeks later they came back when nobody was home and collected the rest.
Right now all my bikes are locked up in the garage. Like you said, I'm hoping that will slow them down enough to where it isn't worth it. Maybe they won't just smash or hacksaw the frames to collect the components.
On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 9:11 AM, mike via Bike-racers <bike-racers@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
In the interest of conversation, I’ve been wondering about keeping my bikes from getting stolen by learning from other’s tragedies.
It seems like mostly the stolen bikes have had a cable cut.
How many have lost a bike that’s had a chain or U-lock cut/broken?
I’ve heard of lots of the bikes taken off of racks. I’m assuming these are racks that hold bikes with both wheels attached. How many bikes have been stolen where the bikes are attached with a fork mount (with the front wheel removed)?
My theory is that it’s easy to just ride a bike away, but the extra time it takes to defeat the lock AND remove the fork from a rack makes my bike a less attractive target. Especially if there’s no front wheel to ride away on. It is a couple extra steps to secure the bike, however, for me it’s worth it. Yes, they can steal the bike with no front wheel, but it’s not as attractive as an entire bike.
It depends on how much your bike or bling on your bike is worth.
I wonder about bikes stolen from garages. Are both wheels on the bike in the garage?
Even in the garage, I take the front wheel off. If I’m gone for any length of time I lock my bikes with a chain. Although inside the garage a thief has much more time to defeat my security.
The bottom line is that anything can be stolen. The trick is to make my stuff not worth the extra effort. Thieves are looking for an easy target. My task is to balance the effort to secure my stuff with the effort to use it.
What systems have worked? Have you found evidence of someone attempting to steal your bike, but were defeated? What was your system?
Just wonderin’
mike lucero
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Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2018 20:17:16 +0000
Subject: Re: [NMCycling] Bike theft questionsJust keep the bike in your car, store it in your bedroom and pack a gun under your pillow.On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 9:12 AM mike via Bike-racers <bike-racers@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:In the interest of conversation, I’ve been wondering about keeping my bikes from getting stolen by learning from other’s tragedies.
It seems like mostly the stolen bikes have had a cable cut.
How many have lost a bike that’s had a chain or U-lock cut/broken?
I’ve heard of lots of the bikes taken off of racks. I’m assuming these are racks that hold bikes with both wheels attached. How many bikes have been stolen where the bikes are attached with a fork mount (with the front wheel removed)?
My theory is that it’s easy to just ride a bike away, but the extra time it takes to defeat the lock AND remove the fork from a rack makes my bike a less attractive target. Especially if there’s no front wheel to ride away on. It is a couple extra steps to secure the bike, however, for me it’s worth it. Yes, they can steal the bike with no front wheel, but it’s not as attractive as an entire bike.
It depends on how much your bike or bling on your bike is worth.
I wonder about bikes stolen from garages. Are both wheels on the bike in the garage?
Even in the garage, I take the front wheel off. If I’m gone for any length of time I lock my bikes with a chain. Although inside the garage a thief has much more time to defeat my security.
The bottom line is that anything can be stolen. The trick is to make my stuff not worth the extra effort. Thieves are looking for an easy target. My task is to balance the effort to secure my stuff with the effort to use it.
What systems have worked? Have you found evidence of someone attempting to steal your bike, but were defeated? What was your system?
Just wonderin’
mike lucero
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Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 14:00:50 -0700
Subject: Re: [NMCycling] Bike theft questionsWe have posted a bunch of good resources here:Recover your bike:andTips:Report a stolen bike to us and Bike Index:Thanks,
Dave Iltis
Cycling WestOn Mar 6, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Beth Olsen via Bike-racers <bike-racers@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:Just keep the bike in your car, store it in your bedroom and pack a gun under your pillow.On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 9:12 AM mike via Bike-racers <bike-racers@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:In the interest of conversation, I’ve been wondering about keeping my bikes from getting stolen by learning from other’s tragedies.
It seems like mostly the stolen bikes have had a cable cut.
How many have lost a bike that’s had a chain or U-lock cut/broken?
I’ve heard of lots of the bikes taken off of racks. I’m assuming these are racks that hold bikes with both wheels attached. How many bikes have been stolen where the bikes are attached with a fork mount (with the front wheel removed)?
My theory is that it’s easy to just ride a bike away, but the extra time it takes to defeat the lock AND remove the fork from a rack makes my bike a less attractive target. Especially if there’s no front wheel to ride away on. It is a couple extra steps to secure the bike, however, for me it’s worth it. Yes, they can steal the bike with no front wheel, but it’s not as attractive as an entire bike.
It depends on how much your bike or bling on your bike is worth.
I wonder about bikes stolen from garages. Are both wheels on the bike in the garage?
Even in the garage, I take the front wheel off. If I’m gone for any length of time I lock my bikes with a chain. Although inside the garage a thief has much more time to defeat my security.
The bottom line is that anything can be stolen. The trick is to make my stuff not worth the extra effort. Thieves are looking for an easy target. My task is to balance the effort to secure my stuff with the effort to use it.
What systems have worked? Have you found evidence of someone attempting to steal your bike, but were defeated? What was your system?
Just wonderin’
mike lucero
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Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 15:12:12 -0700
Subject: Re: [NMCycling] Bike theft questionsBeth has one of the best ideas, it's working so far. Ha..But for the garage locking question..I went to Lowe's and got some fat hooks, (just as fat as the u-bolt locks) screw them into the stud. If you do 2 real close they can't easily unscrew them with a big lock going through, Then run 2 thick cables and 1 chain lock.. It's a real pain in the arse, but has to be done.On Mar 6, 2018 2:02 PM, "Dave Iltis via Bike-racers" <bike-racers@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:We have posted a bunch of good resources here:Recover your bike:andTips:Report a stolen bike to us and Bike Index:Thanks,
Dave Iltis
Cycling WestOn Mar 6, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Beth Olsen via Bike-racers <bike-racers@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:Just keep the bike in your car, store it in your bedroom and pack a gun under your pillow.On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 9:12 AM mike via Bike-racers <bike-racers@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:In the interest of conversation, I’ve been wondering about keeping my bikes from getting stolen by learning from other’s tragedies.
It seems like mostly the stolen bikes have had a cable cut.
How many have lost a bike that’s had a chain or U-lock cut/broken?
I’ve heard of lots of the bikes taken off of racks. I’m assuming these are racks that hold bikes with both wheels attached. How many bikes have been stolen where the bikes are attached with a fork mount (with the front wheel removed)?
My theory is that it’s easy to just ride a bike away, but the extra time it takes to defeat the lock AND remove the fork from a rack makes my bike a less attractive target. Especially if there’s no front wheel to ride away on. It is a couple extra steps to secure the bike, however, for me it’s worth it. Yes, they can steal the bike with no front wheel, but it’s not as attractive as an entire bike.
It depends on how much your bike or bling on your bike is worth.
I wonder about bikes stolen from garages. Are both wheels on the bike in the garage?
Even in the garage, I take the front wheel off. If I’m gone for any length of time I lock my bikes with a chain. Although inside the garage a thief has much more time to defeat my security.
The bottom line is that anything can be stolen. The trick is to make my stuff not worth the extra effort. Thieves are looking for an easy target. My task is to balance the effort to secure my stuff with the effort to use it.
What systems have worked? Have you found evidence of someone attempting to steal your bike, but were defeated? What was your system?
Just wonderin’
mike lucero
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