[Neighbors] Neighbors_nobhill-nm Digest, Vol 49, Issue 1

Tue Mar 1 13:02:33 MST 2016

100% support for Damian Donckels!!!

Central desperately needs change!!!!

-Sal

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Today's Topics:

   1. ART and city council contact
      (Anderson Robert via Neighbors_nobhill-nm)
   2. Re: ART and city council contact
      (Damian Donckels via Neighbors_nobhill-nm)
   3. Re: ART and city council contact
      (wrsweeneydavis via Neighbors_nobhill-nm)
   4. Re: ART and city council contact
      (Veronica Salinas via Neighbors_nobhill-nm)
   5. Re: ART and city council contact
      (Anderson Robert via Neighbors_nobhill-nm)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 17:55:20 -0700
From: Anderson Robert via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
	<neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com>
To: "neighbors at nobhill-nm.com Hill" <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
Subject: [Neighbors] ART and city council contact
Message-ID: <C137807A-5ECE-42EF-98D9-5B3B8092BB56 at comcast.net>
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You can send a message to the city councilors at this page:
http://www.cabq.gov/council/find-your-councilor/contact-all-councilors
<http://www.cabq.gov/council/find-your-councilor/contact-all-councilors>

I just sent this message to all the council:

As more and more people learn what is in the details of this ART more and
more opposition is building and a large number of people in the city would
like for you as a city council to withdraw support for this plan and let's
work on it better.

We need some sort of modern, not legacy type ART.  This plan has many
defects and one big problem was slipped in without any consideration of the
negative impacts was the using Lead/Coal/Zuni as surrogates for the traffic
forced off Central with the design of the plan.

In short most people were not aware this was hidden in the plan.  People are
realizing there will be large negative impacts on communities along
Lead/Coal/Zuni that already have huge problems with traffic that is
unmitigated.

The negative impact of this ART has not been evaluated adequately.  For one
it will involve a large loss of property values for stable, community homes
with families along these streets.   We will see an out migration of the
very kind of families we wish to attract to these areas.  There might be
lawsuits based on loss of property values as the traffic increases with all
its secondary problems on the north/south streets along Lead/Coal/Zuni due
to increase traffic. 

The ART plan in a slight of hand tone says that Lead/Coal and by way of that
Zuni also, are under utilized.  This is code for turning these present
problem streets cutting through our communities into major problems.

I and many other homeowners along the route ask that you as city council
review the past council's endorsement of the ART and withdraw support so
more thought can be given to it by more people.

Sincerely,

Bob Anderson
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Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 03:55:49 +0000 (UTC)
From: Damian Donckels via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
	<neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com>
To: Anderson Robert <citizen at comcast.net>,	"neighbors at nobhill-nm.com
	Hill" <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
Subject: Re: [Neighbors] ART and city council contact
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I just sent this to the below link?I live directly on Central Ave near the
Carlisle interchange.?? Over the last several years, traffic volume and
speed continues to increase on Central as more and more drivers use this
avenue as a high speed thoroughfare.?? I have witnessed many street races
and countless near misses with pedestrians.?? ART is an excellent
opportunity to change this behavior on Central. ?By widening all sidewalks,
slowing the speed limits, making access to the area easier we will inspire
regrowth back into the Nob Hill area.? Families coming down on Sunday's for
breakfast, strolling along the sidewalks sheltered by trees.? Businesses
with?seating along the sidewalk makes me think of European cafe's where
friends meet and talk.? ?There is no change to the number of trees in the
area and an increase in overall parking with the Silver realignment.?? The
project does not increase any costs to businesses or residents in the area.?
?It?also provides a much needed!
  increase in low cost transportation to an already overloaded bus system.?
The current system is at capacity and I have seen bike riders not allowed on
the bus due to overcrowding.?? ?The project also provided much needed budget
to clean along Central and provide street light repairs.?There is no current
maintaince crew for street light repairs.? ?Twice per day, cleaning crews
are already budged to maintain all stops along Central from end to end.??
?There are many empty store fronts as more and more shops move out of the
area.?? We must make changes that are supported by several studies of the
area.?? Staples recently closed leaving zero big box retailers.? Nob Hill
needs large retailers to bring more shoppers and improve our occupancy
rates.? ?I have talked to many people that live in this area and a large
majority approve of this project and look forward to the improvements.? ?I
attended multiple pre submittal meetings and do not agree that this effort
was ramrodded down!
  our throats.?? Multiple meetings discussed various options and the current
plans include many of the suggestions provided by residents in the Nob Hill
area.? ?This effort should move forward as rapidly as possible.?? The
definition of insanity is doing the same thing again and again
while?expecting different results.? We cannot afford to keep Central as it
is now.? This only leads to depressed property values in the area and more
vacant store fronts.?Damian Donckels. 

      From: Anderson Robert via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
<neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com>
 To: "neighbors at nobhill-nm.com Hill" <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
 Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 7:55 PM
 Subject: [Neighbors] ART and city council contact

You can send a message to the city councilors at this
page:http://www.cabq.gov/council/find-your-councilor/contact-all-councilors
I just sent this message to all the council:
As more and more people learn what is in the details of thisART more and
more opposition is building and a large number of people in thecity would
like for you as a city council to withdraw support for this plan andlet's
work on it better. ?We need some sort of modern, not legacy type ART.? This
plan has many defects and one bigproblem was slipped in without any
consideration of the negative impacts wasthe using Lead/Coal/Zuni as
surrogates for the traffic forced off Central withthe design of the plan.
?In short most people were not aware this was hidden in theplan.? People are
realizing there will belarge negative impacts on communities along
Lead/Coal/Zuni that already havehuge problems with traffic that is
unmitigated. ?The negative impact of this ART has not been
evaluatedadequately.? For one it will involve alarge loss of property values
for stable, community homes with families alongthese streets.?? We will see
an outmigration of the very kind of families we wish to at!
 tract to these areas.? There might be lawsuits based on loss ofproperty
values as the traffic increases with all its secondary problems on
thenorth/south streets along Lead/Coal/Zuni due to increase traffic.?  ?The
ART plan in a slight of hand tone says that Lead/Coaland by way of that Zuni
also, are under utilized.? This is code for turning these presentproblem
streets cutting through our communities into major problems. ?I and many
other homeowners along the route ask that you ascity council review the past
council's endorsement of the ART and withdrawsupport so more thought can be
given to it by more people. ?Sincerely,Bob Anderson
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Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 22:05:53 -0700
From: wrsweeneydavis via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
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To: Damian Donckels via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
	<damiandonckels at yahoo.com>,	Anderson Robert
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	"neighbors at nobhill-nm.com Hill" <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
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Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 15:17:27 +0000 (UTC)
From: Veronica Salinas via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
	<neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com>
To: Anderson Robert <citizen at comcast.net>,	"neighbors at nobhill-nm.com
	Hill" <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
Subject: Re: [Neighbors] ART and city council contact
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I just sent this to the council:
Nob Hill residents opposed to the ART project have concernsabout increased
traffic on Lead and Coal.?These two roads pass through residential Nob Hill
and already havespeeding, drag racing, and heavy traffic issues.? The ART
project should include funding to slow down trafficon Lead and Coal and
thereby force east-west overflow traffic onto Gibson andLomas.? The most
obvious way to slowtraffic is to turn Lead and Coal back into two lane roads
(one lane in eachdirection).? This would also eliminateaccidents due to
people going the wrong way on a one-way.? Other solutions would be to narrow
the lanesand provide on-street parking.? Studiesshow that visible
obstructions are the best way to slow traffic through citiesand save lives.?
I know it will be difficult to swallow another Lead and Coalrenovation, but
clearly the most recent improvements have not slowed traffic ormade these
roads safer.? The ART projectwill only exacerbate the problem.

    On Monday, February 29, 2016 7:23 PM, Anderson Robert via
Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:

 You can send a message to the city councilors at this
page:http://www.cabq.gov/council/find-your-councilor/contact-all-councilors
I just sent this message to all the council:
As more and more people learn what is in the details of thisART more and
more opposition is building and a large number of people in thecity would
like for you as a city council to withdraw support for this plan andlet's
work on it better. ?We need some sort of modern, not legacy type ART.? This
plan has many defects and one bigproblem was slipped in without any
consideration of the negative impacts wasthe using Lead/Coal/Zuni as
surrogates for the traffic forced off Central withthe design of the plan.
?In short most people were not aware this was hidden in theplan.? People are
realizing there will belarge negative impacts on communities along
Lead/Coal/Zuni that already havehuge problems with traffic that is
unmitigated. ?The negative impact of this ART has not been
evaluatedadequately.? For one it will involve alarge loss of property values
for stable, community homes with families alongthese streets.?? We will see
an outmigration of the very kind of families we wish to at!
 tract to these areas.? There might be lawsuits based on loss ofproperty
values as the traffic increases with all its secondary problems on
thenorth/south streets along Lead/Coal/Zuni due to increase traffic.?  ?The
ART plan in a slight of hand tone says that Lead/Coaland by way of that Zuni
also, are under utilized.? This is code for turning these presentproblem
streets cutting through our communities into major problems. ?I and many
other homeowners along the route ask that you ascity council review the past
council's endorsement of the ART and withdrawsupport so more thought can be
given to it by more people. ?Sincerely,Bob Anderson
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 08:51:08 -0700
From: Anderson Robert via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
	<neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com>
To: Damian Donckels <damiandonckels at yahoo.com>
Cc: "neighbors at nobhill-nm.com Hill" <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
Subject: Re: [Neighbors] ART and city council contact
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Damian Donckel?s points are somewhat true for Central Ave. but the larger
negative impact of this ART plan is what was left out from the discussion
from the start - and for good reason.  That is why it is quickly being
pushed down on us in the off-Central communities north and south of Central.
The assumption by the city planners is that for a small raise in the value
of property and businesses along Central to developers and speculators
individually it is ok to destroy the large number, collectively established
long stable homes and neighborhoods with increased traffic problems - or
moving the problems of Central over here, and onto some north area streets.
On one hand this is a classic business/neighborhood conflict we are caught
up in.

 I live on the corner of Coal and Richmond and I tell you people are already
talking of getting out of here if this goes through.  I see a lot of once
family homes have been sold to investors who are turning the area into
rental properties.  Many are student rentals now.  It seems more and more
for sale signs are going up in this area.  This ART plan as far as I can
tell tries to sell this large negative impact by ignoring us all.  I have
spoken to this point from the first time the plan came out but it has fallen
on deaf engineers ears.

 The planners are on record saying that Coal/Lead are under utilized for
traffic flow.  That mean they plan on shifting all the traffic problems of
Central over to Lead/Coal, which already are already, has insurmountable
problems with traffic.  If they lived here I bet they would see it clearly.

 I just received a reply to my email this morning from city councilor Gibson
who I understand is in real estate and she repeats much of Dockets points
below of a value rise along Central.  But what I replied is that this ART
plan assumes it is acceptable to sacrifice all the other neighborhoods and
communities for an incremental value increase for businesses over along
Central.  City engineers see our communities as problems bordering Lead/Coal
traffic flow while we see Lead/Coal as knives cutting apart stable desirable
communities.  We are back in some sense but with more intensity to the basic
problem that was created by turning two small streets in dense residential
communities into highways for cross town traffic related to the problem of
what to do with Central Ave.  I would say this problem could be solved in a
way that can benefit everyone if the community is heard.

Bob Anderson

On Feb 29, 2016, at 8:55 PM, Damian Donckels <damiandonckels at yahoo.com>
wrote:

I just sent this to the below link

I live directly on Central Ave near the Carlisle interchange.   Over the
last several years, traffic volume and speed continues to increase on
Central as more and more drivers use this avenue as a high speed
thoroughfare.   I have witnessed many street races and countless near misses
with pedestrians.   ART is an excellent opportunity to change this behavior
on Central.

By widening all sidewalks, slowing the speed limits, making access to the
area easier we will inspire regrowth back into the Nob Hill area.  Families
coming down on Sunday's for breakfast, strolling along the sidewalks
sheltered by trees.  Businesses with seating along the sidewalk makes me
think of European cafe's where friends meet and talk. 

There is no change to the number of trees in the area and an increase in
overall parking with the Silver realignment.   The project does not increase
any costs to businesses or residents in the area. 

It also provides a much needed increase in low cost transportation to an
already overloaded bus system.  The current system is at capacity and I have
seen bike riders not allowed on the bus due to overcrowding.  

The project also provided much needed budget to clean along Central and
provide street light repairs. There is no current maintaince crew for street
light repairs.   Twice per day, cleaning crews are already budged to
maintain all stops along Central from end to end.  

There are many empty store fronts as more and more shops move out of the
area.   We must make changes that are supported by several studies of the
area.   Staples recently closed leaving zero big box retailers.  Nob Hill
needs large retailers to bring more shoppers and improve our occupancy
rates. 

I have talked to many people that live in this area and a large majority
approve of this project and look forward to the improvements. 

I attended multiple pre submittal meetings and do not agree that this effort
was ramrodded down our throats.   Multiple meetings discussed various
options and the current plans include many of the suggestions provided by
residents in the Nob Hill area. 

This effort should move forward as rapidly as possible.   The definition of
insanity is doing the same thing again and again while expecting different
results.  We cannot afford to keep Central as it is now.  This only leads to
depressed property values in the area and more vacant store fronts.

Damian Donckels.

From: Anderson Robert via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
<neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com>
To: "neighbors at nobhill-nm.com Hill" <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 7:55 PM
Subject: [Neighbors] ART and city council contact

You can send a message to the city councilors at this page:
http://www.cabq.gov/council/find-your-councilor/contact-all-councilors
<http://www.cabq.gov/council/find-your-councilor/contact-all-councilors>