[Neighbors] ART
Cliff Loucks via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
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Wed Mar 2 20:30:42 MST 2016
Yes, the parallel parking is remaining. But I’m confused about how functional it will be. I say given this that I picture lots of bumper to bumper traffic in the single lane available for cars here in the heart of Nob Hill. I could certainly be wrong about that.
I’ve also been curious how the two lane traffic sections surrounding Nob Hill will smoothly transition into the single lane here in our neighborhood. After watching the traffic simulations on the ART website, what appears to happen is the outside traffic lanes becomes a Right Turn Only lane. Then I start picturing lots of unsuspecting motorists suddenly trying to merge into the thru lane.
I am not against the ART project, I’m merely suffering some confusion about the real life functionality of some aspects of it.
Please and Thank You,
—-Cliff
> On Mar 2, 2016, at 4:46 PM, Jim Strozier via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
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> I believe that the existing on-street parking is also being maintained in Nob Hill.
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> From: Neighbors_nobhill-nm [mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm-bounces at mailman.swcp.com <mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm-bounces at mailman.swcp.com>] On Behalf Of Susan Michie via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
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> Robert - as I understand it, there is a traffic analysis for the ART that provides an estimate of how much traffic could potentially be displaced onto all traffic arteries that parallel Central, rather than a plan to directly divert traffic onto Lead/Coal.
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> Also, the current design plan will remove the medians and replace the same number of trees along the sidewalks and the parallel parking along Central will remain intact.
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> From: Anderson Robert <citizen at comcast.net <mailto:citizen at comcast.net>>
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> Cc: Greg Weirs <vgweirs at gmail.com <mailto:vgweirs at gmail.com>>; "neighbors at nobhill-nm.com Hill <mailto:neighbors at nobhill-nm.com%20Hill>" <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com <mailto:neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>>
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> As I recall the early discussions in 2014 there was no open talk of shifting the traffic off Central to Lead/Coal.
> That was kept on the back burner and most people focused at the time on Central traffic. Now we know the full scope of what is planned with this ART. Is it necessary to destroy the communities along Lead/Coal to make a few bucks on Central?
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> On Mar 1, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Susan Michie via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com <mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com>> wrote:
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> Greg is right - I know of at least 3 public outreach events held by the NHNA in Nob Hill about the BRT/ART. One at Yanni's in 2013, two at MVCC in 2014 and 2015. In addition, Bruce Rizzeri with ABQ attended a NHNA Board meeting to take comment and answer questions. All of these meetings were either advertised over this list-serv or published in our agendas. Also, two articles about the ART and where to give input were published in two editions our NHNA Newsletter that is hand delivered to every household and business in Nob Hill.
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> I don't have a problem with people being opposed to the ART, but there is quite lot of invalid and unsubstantiated information being passed around over this list-serv and Nextdoor by the opposition. Whatever your position, you should be well-informed by both sides of the issue. Here is a link that may help you do that....
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> In Defense of ART – A Response to Save Route 66 Central’s Open Letter <https://urbanabq.com/2016/02/21/defenseofart/>
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> In Defense of ART – A Response to Save Route 66 Central’... <https://urbanabq.com/2016/02/21/defenseofart/>
> By Dan Majewski Edited by Jessica Carr, Chad Gruber, Leila Salim, Michael Vos and other UrbanABQ team members February 21, 2016 Preface As of Tuesda... <https://urbanabq.com/2016/02/21/defenseofart/>
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> I'm sorry, I have to disagree with your statement "It is a lie" that public meetings were held to get input. Here are some links to the archives of this email list where meetings were announced and other posts on the topic. There may be others as well, I did not do an exhaustive search. I do recall attending at least two meetings, and I estimate there were 50-100 other attendees at each. <https://urbanabq.com/2016/02/21/defenseofart/>
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> March 5, 2015: http://mailman.swcp.com/pipermail/neighbors_nobhill-nm/2015-February/006056.html <https://urbanabq.com/2016/02/21/defenseofart/>
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> June 2013: http://mailman.swcp.com/pipermail/neighbors_nobhill-nm/2013-June/004056.html <https://urbanabq.com/2016/02/21/defenseofart/>
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> May 2013: http://mailman.swcp.com/pipermail/neighbors_nobhill-nm/2013-May/thread.html (please browse the thread titles for a number of posts) <https://urbanabq.com/2016/02/21/defenseofart/>
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> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Anderson Robert via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote: <https://urbanabq.com/2016/02/21/defenseofart/>
> Pete Dinielli is right on this. We should all go to city council Monday night and put this on their agenda again. <https://urbanabq.com/2016/02/21/defenseofart/>
> What I keep hearing from the city is how they consulted with so many people on this before hand. It is a lie. I figure they did talk to a few developers and people who want to spend a pile of money. I have lived here near 40 years now and know hundreds of local community residents, neighbors and friends and none of those folks told me the city had done outreach to them about this project. In fact if any of us voiced opposition we were deliberately excluded it seems. <https://urbanabq.com/2016/02/21/defenseofart/>
> We need more public transit for sure but this project with its stealth component of turning Lead and Coal and Zuni into major interstate highways will destroy the stable long-term neighborhoods on both sides of Central. <https://urbanabq.com/2016/02/21/defenseofart/>
> What we will have is a major exit of what makes up stable middle-class communities. Speculators like this kind of out migration. The plan has no consideration at all of the impact on the communities as far as I can tell. The more the public looks at it the more problems we can see with it, trees, crossings, more oil, parking, bankruptcies from more loans to businesses not doing well now... <https://urbanabq.com/2016/02/21/defenseofart/>
> I found the meeting last night helpful and learned a lot from folks who spoke in opposition to this plan. <https://urbanabq.com/2016/02/21/defenseofart/>
> This ART is BARF, Shut it Down! <https://urbanabq.com/2016/02/21/defenseofart/>
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> On Feb 26, 2016, at 11:11 AM, Thomas Simic via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote: <https://urbanabq.com/2016/02/21/defenseofart/>
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> I attended the meeting last night. There were a lot of angry people and rightfully so. After attending the meeting, I am more concerned about the negative affect this project will have on Nob Hill, by eliminating appx. 71 trees, 68 parking spaces and most left turn signals on Central. There is limited parking for people coming to Nob Hill presently and we are taking away more parking.All of this will affect businesses. There will be an increase of 300 cars during rush hour on Lead & Coal. I live on Carlisle & Coal and witness first hand the speeding,excessive noice from modified mufflers and big boom speakers in vehicles that rattle your house, accidents and loss of life at this intersection, not to mention the trash that people throw out of their windows. this will only increase this problem. The new buses will still use fossil fuels. There was mention about looking at an electric bus but no promise of such. I think we need to find a way to get a moratorium to stop this project and have everyone go back to the drawing board. I am in favor of progress but.....is this progress?? Will the ART plan compete with plans in other states 5-10yrs. from now?? Let's think about the future when making Albuquerque progressive. I am not sure if buses are the answer. I encourage everyone to take the survey online at Albuquerque Free Press and voice your opinion on this project. Thank you for hearing me out. Let's do what is right for Nob Hill and the city of Albuquerque. <https://urbanabq.com/2016/02/21/defenseofart/>
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