[Neighbors] Express your support for the Lead/Coal Smart Lights initiative!

Wed Feb 10 10:13:00 MST 2021

Like others in this thread, I am skeptical of this type of solution. I
think a simpler, less costly, and less confusing solution would be to
replace lights with stop signs. As someone who lives on a residential
street between Lead and Coal, one block from the Carlisle/Lead/Coal
intersections, I am doubtful that more lights will solve this problem.

Thank you,
Ciaran Lithgow
ciaranlithgow at gmail.com

On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 10:15 PM Tom Simic via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <
neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:

> So does this mean that the light at Carlise& Coal and other main
> intersections will be red in both directions  and what happens  when both
> cars approach  the intersection at the same time,,,,doesn't turn green at
> the same time in both directions,,,,,so, if a car is speeding,,,,,it has to
> stop first and then the light changes,,,,,,I know that something needs to
> be done to  stop the speeders, accidents and noise  pollution,,,,but maybe
> we need more data on this system
>
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> *From:* David Garcia <david at halflifedigital.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2021 9:11:57 PM
> *To:* Tom Simic <tomsimic at hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* neighbors at nobhill-nm.com <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>; TheBoard
> NobHill-NM <theboard at nobhill-nm.com>; Mark Nelson <r.mark.nelson at gmail.com
> >
> *Subject:* Re: [Neighbors] Express your support for the Lead/Coal Smart
> Lights initiative!
>
> I should point out that I misstated something in the initial email. The
> rest-in-red lights actually remain red unless approached by a vehicle going
> the appropriate speed limit. So the issue of people trying to speed to run
> the light is moot. It will be red unless they go the right speed.
>
> Any increase in enforcement (we continue to circle back to this ask) is by
> definition a temporary solution as long as traffic enforcement is a low
> priority with APD. We are looking for more permanent solutions on Lead and
> Coal that don’t require an officer assigned there 24/7.
>
> It should also be said that we agreed to support this initiative by the
> councilor with the understanding that it would be just a first step among
> many in solving the Lead/Coal puzzle. We are also looking at other
> initiatives.
>
> As a neighbor raising a toddler between Lead and Coal I respectfully ask
> again for neighbors to please write or call in support of this important
> project. I feel that it will be a net positive towards the goal of my
> family’s safety.
>
> Thanks much,
>
> David Garcia
> Vice President, NHNA
>
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>
> On Feb 9, 2021, at 7:58 PM, Tom Simic <tomsimic at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> I sent Gary an email  yesterday expressing the same
>
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> *From:* Neighbors_nobhill-nm <
> neighbors_nobhill-nm-bounces at mailman.swcp.com> on behalf of Mark Nelson
> via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2021 7:38:28 PM
> *To:* neighbors at nobhill-nm.com <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>; TheBoard
> NobHill-NM <theboard at nobhill-nm.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Neighbors] Express your support for the Lead/Coal Smart
> Lights initiative!
>
> Hi neighbors,
>
> NHNA has had extensive discussions regarding what solutions may be
> available to help address the urgent problems that reckless driving is
> causing along Lead and Coal. It is a nightmare for neighbors that live on
> intersecting streets, especially those with children and pets.
>
> We have had discussions regarding increased enforcement, speed changes,
> and other traffic calming measures. Lead and Coal are challenging because
> the city utilizes them as a larger connector streets for traffic to and
> from downtown. This limits both what restrictions can be expected to be
> acceptable to the city, as well as the practical limitations caused by the
> decreased traffic capacities of both Central and Silver. As Greg stated,
> the city is very limited in terms of additional traffic enforcement due to
> violent and other major crimes that require police response.
>
> This system will be a force multiplier to enforce traffic laws. It
> will reward drivers for maintaining the speed limit and punish drivers who
> speed with frequent stops. Not only will it encourage safe speeds, but it
> will also discourage reckless drivers from using Lead and Coal altogether.
> It is a creative response to a problem that has been very difficult for our
> neighborhood to address for some time now. Also, we have a significant
> financial and political commitment from Councillor Davis to assist us in
> addressing this problem. This is a rare opportunity for a new solution to
> one of the major challenges facing our neighborhood, and we should take
> advantage of it.
>
> I am in support of seeking funding the proposal. Good to hear from all of
> you, and to hear your important input on this issue!
>
> Mark Nelson
> Secretary
> Nob Hill Neighborhood Association
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 7:05 PM SCOTT ELDREDGE <scott2467 at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Agree
> More police presence solves multiple issues.
> Put that $ towards more officers/patrols.
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
>
> On Feb 9, 2021, at 5:32 PM, JILL FRAWLEY via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <
> neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
> I agree with Van Eldredge completely.
>
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