[Neighbors] Nob Hill seeks your support on Lead and Coal Aves.

[Suzann Owings]

WOW, what a comprehensive response.  Thank you for your research, S
Suzann Owings
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On Feb 10, 2021, at 11:37 AM, Jim Barrera via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:

 <>A couple neighbors asked me to weigh in on this issue, so I will share what I know.

There are some speed-actuated traffic signals in operation elsewhere in the U.S.  One type has the signals “rest in red” on all approaches.  When the detectors sense vehicles approaching at or under the speed limit, the system gives that approach a green light.  If the detectors sense vehicles approaching at above the speed limit (possibly with some leeway allowed), it holds that approach on red until the vehicles arrive and have to stop.

Traffic engineers have learned several things about these systems:

1.  For them to be effective, there must be driver education about the system.  Drivers must understand that their behavior (speed) is directly affecting whether they get a green light or not.

2.  Related to #1, these systems may be effective at isolated intersections with single-lane approaches, where the behavior/reward is obvious to the driver.  They are not considered effective for roadways with multiple lanes, where other vehicles will often trigger the system punishing everyone else who was traveling at the speed limit.

3.  They are not recommended for roadways with high traffic volumes.  Other cities have found that about 5,000 vehicles per day is the maximum traffic where these systems work well.  Lead/Coal each move upwards of 14,000 vehicles per day.  At these higher traffic volumes, such systems triggering extra red lights will just cause unnecessary congestion.

4.  These systems can work well at isolated intersections, but they are inappropriate for a corridor with timed coordinated traffic signals.  Lead/Coal is a coordinated corridor with signals timed for 30 MPH.  During peak commute periods, they move the platoons of vehicles efficiently through the system.  A speeding vehicle in the middle of the night may be stopped by this system, but during rush hour, just a few activations will turn Lead/Coal into gridlock. 

A second type of system is not rest-in-red, but one that operates like a normal traffic signal alternately giving the main street and cross streets green lights/red lights.  When the green is on the main street and it senses a vehicle approaching at above the speed limit, the system will change it to yellow and then red.  The system would have to detect the speeding vehicle far enough in advance of the intersection that the safe required yellow time can be provided and go to red before the vehicle arrives.  On Lead/Coal, this type of operation may be effective to curtail the excessive speeders in off-peak hours like at night when there is little traffic.  But it would still be inappropriate to do this during coordinated timed operation for peak traffic hours.  

`jimb




On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 11:13 AM Melodie Eyster via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com <mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com>> wrote:
Good morning, Antoinette and Gail.
 
Nob Hill and surrounding neighborhoods need your support for the Lead & Coal Safety Upgrades Capital Outlay Request, LCS Project ID 1275.
 
Capital Outlay Request Amount: $250k
Total Project Cost: $350k
Funding Secured: $100k
State ICIP Project ID: 30957
LCS Project ID: 1275
 
Along with our sister associations, University Heights and Southeast Heights, Nob Hill Neighborhood Association has long sought an answer to the speeding, reckless driving, and high speed accidents on Lead & Coal Aves. We’ve tried virtually everything but the situation is still horrible.
City Councilor Pat Davis has come up with an innovative idea to install speed sensitive traffic signals known as rest in red signals that only turn green when the approaching vehicle is traveling at or below the speed limit. The project is in the study and design phase.
The capital outlay request of $250,000 would be combined with City funds of $100,000 to implement this project, save lives, and enhance quality of life for hundreds of families on the corridor. 
 
We urge your support and we urge any neighbor who feels the same to reach out as well.
 
Kind regards,
 
Gary Eyster
President, Nob Hill Neighborhood Association
 
 

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