[Neighbors] Neighborhood Meeting Request for 201 Hermosa NE

Thu Jun 24 11:40:43 MDT 2021

Some questions we'll need to ask:  what will their hours of operation be,
how will parking be handled, and describe how they monitor people's alcohol
consumption (I believe microbreweries have a three drink limit which they
are supposed to monitor closely). We can probably frame other people's
concerns as questions as well.
*Nancy Koenigsberg*

On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 10:38 AM Peter Katel via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <
neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:

> I, who also live just off Lomas, agree with Mark. Blaming pandemic and
> post-pandemic (I hope it’s post) behavior on bars and soon-to-be-opened
> weed stores seems too facile to me. Apart from the pandemic, ART created a
> lot of what we’re talking about. I wish it could be torn up, but that
> doesn’t seem practical.
>
> That said, not all bars are alike, and if they don’t serve food, there is
> good reason to be cautious. I don’t know High and Dry, but I’ll take Mark’s
> word that they’ve behaved like responsible neighbors. If I read the
> announcement correctly, a restaurant will remain on the site, which is a
> point in High and Dry’s favor.
>
> Peter
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> Peter Katel
> Albuquerque, NM
> 202-431-9022
> Skype peter.katel
> katel.peter at gmail.com
> https://www.katelinterpret.com
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> On Jun 24, 2021, at 10:05 AM, MARK CLEVELAND via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <
> neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, loud, fast cars and motorcycles are not unique to this
> neighborhood or city: this is an increasing problem across the country,
> especially it seems, exacerbated during the pandemic lockdown. Folks
> seemingly want to bust out. I live just off Lomas and in 20 years, I’ve
> never seen it like it has been since early last year. In my careful
> opinion, it has nothing to do with “drinking places,” most of which were
> closed for much of last year. High and Dry--this applicant--has had a very
> respectful presence at their current location in the neighborhood just east
> of Washington and Lomas for a number of years. This isn’t like downtown and
> granting licenses to brew pubs is nothing like creating a zone of strip
> clubs, like we have downtown.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Mark Cleveland
>
> On Jun 24, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Robert L Anderson <citizen at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> I agree with Lucille’s comments.  All these drinking places I believe have
> attracted to the streets of our neighborhood the racing and loud vehicles
> that care nothing about the people living here.  They just zoom up and down
> our streets at dangerous speeds.  It has gotten worse and worse in the near
> 20 years I have lived here.  I see this kind of business not as an asset
> but a part of the decline of our community.  We have now the legal drug
> trade and the war makers setting up shops here.  It seems we are we
> becoming a neighborhood for bombs, booze and drugs.  I say we stop this
> erosion of our neighborhood.
> Bob
>
> On Jun 23, 2021, at 5:24 AM, lucille Torres via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <
> neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
> It seems like a reoccurring theme with businesses that can survive in Nob
> Hill now. One of the realizations I've had being on the NH B.O.D. is that
> the residents are caught between a rock and a hard place.  None of us want
> to see empty buildings on Central and we cherish our businesses. We are
> deeply saddened by those that couldn't survive high rents during ART and
> certainly got destroyed during Covid -19 .
>
> Many of us continue to live in Nob Hill because of the hope of a return to
> the variety of businesses that existed at one time here. Quaint shops, etc.
>  Parking is a major problem!!! patrons spill over into the neighborhoods.
> Our B.O.D. continues to explore solutions for parking.  I have been
> conflicted in supporting any type of liquor license without food being
> offered. The part that disturbs me the most is what will happen to Nob Hill
> when every empty building is filled with Bars and Recreational Marijuana
> shops?   Is this what we as a community want to see?
>
> Flora has lived through many changes in Nob Hill and has witnessed its
> erosion.  She is 100 percent correct!  The more bars we accept coupled with
> the Recreational cannabis coming soon, is a recipe for disaster.  Mental
> Impairment causes disruption on all levels to neighborhoods.
> Many owners of Businesses in Nob Hill do not live in Nob Hill which at
> times creates a disconnect between residents and businesses.
> And as for homelessness,  It is already here and we deal with it on a
> daily basis hoping our approval of funding to remedy this problem will
> someday help those who are down and out.  It's heartbreaking.
>
> I will continue to vote my conscious and support a variety of well rounded
> businesses for Nob Hill and will be cautious about giving credence to any
> industry that alters mental behavior which can negatively impact our
> Neighborhoods.  Ultimately, if dominance of these businesses continue, many
> long term neighbors will re-locate to family friendly neighborhoods.
>
> Lucille Torres-Long
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> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 08:29:19 PM MDT, Flora Silva <
> silva_f65 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> We chose to live in NH 49 yrs. ago with the expectation that businesses
> would remain on Central and not become encroachments in residential areas.
>
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 8:26:24 PM MDT, Flora Silva <
> silva_f65 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
> Good points, Melinda.
>
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 7:27:40 PM MDT, mike via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <
> neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
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> I agree with Greg and flora
>
> Mike Gallegos, Attorney
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> Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device
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> From: MARK CLEVELAND via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <
> neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com>
> Date: 6/22/21 6:21 PM (GMT-07:00)
> To: radams at rickyadams.com
> Cc: Michael Vos <vos at consensusplanning.com>, Melodie Eyster <
> meyster1 at me.com>, Neighbors Hill <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>, TheBoard
> NobHill-NM <theboard at nobhill-nm.com>
> Subject: Re: [Neighbors] Fwd: Neighborhood Meeting Request for 201 Hermosa
> NE
>
> I’ve lived on Hermosa NE for 20+ years and remember when this neighborhood
> was vibrant, before the 2008 recession. The property is zoned for this;
> it’s an appropriate use. The “available” properties on Central are held by
> a handful of property moguls who, clearly, have no problem keeping places
> empty to prop up unsupportable rents in the current economy and especially
> given what ART has done to destroy Central. I think it’ll be a tough go for
> them at this location; but see no reason to deny them a use the property is
> intended for. I’m aware they are a responsible business. I support this
> application.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Cleveland
>
>
> On Jun 22, 2021, at 4:52 PM, Ricky Adams via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <
> neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
> I fully support businesses.  The spaces on Central are over priced for
> this depressed economy.
>
> An empty building is bad.
>
> I support the location and will be present to support the businesses.
>
> Businesses are restricted to existing noise and business hour restrictions
> in Albuquerque.
>
> Don’t be scared.  Be supportive of businesses. It is better than homeless
> camps (which are coming soon near you).
>
> Ricky Adams
> 308 Aliso Dr SE
>
> *From:* Neighbors_nobhill-nm <
> neighbors_nobhill-nm-bounces at mailman.swcp.com> *On Behalf Of *Flora Silva
> via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 22, 2021 3:53 PM
> *To:* Greg Weirs <vgweirs at gmail.com>; Jen Kihm <jenkihm at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* Neighbors Hill <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>; Melodie Eyster <
> meyster1 at me.com>; TheBoard NobHill-NM <theboard at nobhill-nm.com>; Michael
> Vos <vos at consensusplanning.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Neighbors] Fwd: Neighborhood Meeting Request for 201
> Hermosa NE
>
> I am not familiar with the business and will wait for the official call
> for service reports before commenting on this aspect of the application.
> The location is too close to residents; consider traffic, noise, and
> parking. I do agree it is encroaching into
> residents' areas.  For this reason, I would not support.
> Flora
>
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 3:38:01 PM MDT, Jen Kihm via
> Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
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> Current location is open from 2:00 - 8:00 PM daily. Just FYI.
> Jen Kihm
>
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> On Jun 22, 2021, at 2:04 PM, Greg Weirs via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <
> neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
> 
> On the proposed dates, I think the holiday weekend would reduce
> participation at the meeting, so should be pushed back. Failing that, I
> would prefer July 1.
>
> On the application itself, I am concerned that a high volume business with
> evening operating hours would encroach heavily on the residents living
> literally next door and 50ft across the street. I support the business but
> not at that location.
>
> Greg
>
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 10:43 AM Melodie Eyster via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <
> neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
> Nob hill friends and neighbors, I am forwarding this notice that we just
> received. I have discussed it with our vice president and we can see
> benefit in asking for a facilitated meeting with the applicant.
> I would ask the community if you agree and do the dates the applicant has
> offered look OK? Our association would not make a decision at that time but
> at our board meeting immediately before the ZHE hearing.
> Also, we would like to get the word out to those in the nearby residences.
> That could well involve a flyer because of course they’re not all on this
> email list.
>
> Please reply to me or to all with your ideas. We will probably try to get
> together a decision in the next couple days. Kind regards, Gary
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From:* Michael Vos <Vos at consensusplanning.com>
> *Date:* June 21, 2021 at 7:21:29 PM MDT
> *To:* Gary and Melodie Eyster <meyster1 at me.com>, david at halflifedigital.com
> , info at willsonstudio.com, Mandy Warr <mandy at theremedydayspa.com>
> *Cc:* Jim Strozier <cp at consensusplanning.com>
> *Subject:* *Neighborhood Meeting Request for 201 Hermosa NE
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/201+Hermosa+NE?entry=gmail&source=g>*
>
> 
>
> Good evening Nob Hill Neighbors,
>
>
> This email is notice that Consensus Planning is preparing an application
> for a Conditional Use Approval to be submitted for review by the Zoning
> Hearing Examiner (ZHE) to allow a “*taproom or tasting room*” within an
> MX-L (Mixed-use Low Intensity) zone district.
>
>
> The subject property is located at the northwest corner of Copper Avenue
> and Hermosa Drive NE. The Applicant, High and Dry Brewery is excited to
> propose a public house as their second location in the eastern building on
> the property, which was most recently used as a tattoo parlor. There is
> also a restaurant located on the site. Attached are a conceptual site plan
> and building renderings and additional information about this request. The
> primary change to the site will be the addition of a patio on the south and
> east sides of the building.
>
>
> We would like to submit our application to the ZHE on Tuesday, July 6th for
> a public hearing on August 17th. To meet this schedule, we are proposing
> a possible neighborhood meeting to discuss this project with your
> Associations on either *Thursday, July 1st* or *Monday, July 5th*. We
> hope one of these days works for you. Please let me know which works best.
> If you determine there is not a need to meet, please also let me know, so
> we can proceed with our application. We are also happy to present at
> additional meetings after making our application.
>
>
> We appreciate your consideration of this request and look forward to
> working with you throughout our application process.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> *Michael Vos, AICP *
>
> *CONSENSUS PLANNING, INC.*
>
> 302 Eighth Street NW
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> vos at consensusplanning.com
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