[Neighbors] Gary Hoffman keeps his fence on Silver and Richmond
Mark Gonzales
markjefe at comcast.net
Fri Sep 24 15:25:32 MDT 2021
Robert, the saga of Mr Hoffman’s fence was resolved and gets to keep the fence he installed on his property.
City council had deferred the full hearing and was subsequently heard at CC for vote and he won !
He stood his ground and didn’t back down from the out of touch NHNA, kudos to him and others that stand up against the board who selectively targets some neighbors.
A board who very much wishes to apply self imposed Home Owners Association HOA rules that don’t apply to our neighborhood. This board needs to rethink its approach rather than filing costly appeals against our neighbors.
Congratulations Mr Hoffman ,
Mark Gonzales
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> On Sep 19, 2021, at 2:57 PM, Mark Gonzales <markjefe at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Robert, It’s sad we have to live with fear of their retribution .
> They don’t like me either and for a while,
> they blocked any postings from me that criticized them .
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Robert L Anderson <citizen at comcast.net> wrote:
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>> Mark,
>>
>> Yea, I agree. There is this danger for sure.
>> They already censor a lot of my messages out to the neighborhood through the list serve.
>> They don’t like me already.
>> You take care too.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Mark Gonzales <markjefe at comcast.net> wrote:
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>> Bob, this particular board as well as many last boards are run by a “click” and you’re right, They are not in tune with the our community.
>> What they are doing to Mr Hoffman is not in the spirit of what a neighboring association should be doing.
>> Beware , they could file a complaint and appeal on the house adjoining on the south side of Hoffman .
>> They can also do the same for your fence.
>> Even though it’s been there a long time .
>> They could file an appeal or complaint with half the homeowners in our neighborhood if the click wishes .
>> Very dangerous !!
>> It’s almost as if they wish our neighborhood to be like Tanoan with covenants and restrictions.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>> On Sep 15, 2021, at 10:37 AM, Robert L Anderson <citizen at comcast.net> wrote:
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>>> Hi Mark,
>>>
>>> Yes, I see what happened now. Thanks.
>>> Mr. Hoffman is correct in saying that the NHNA board seems out of connection with the community, whatever that is does change from time to time too. The board is driven by some intention that tries to cover city, business, politicians, historical and homeowners which all have separate agendas.
>>>
>>> I am not sure where this will go when it hits council again.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bob Anderson
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sep 14, 2021, at 5:30 PM, Mark Gonzales <markjefe at comcast.net> wrote:
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>>> Hi Robert , I appreciate that Gary Eyster responded to you but he left out a few details as did Katy’s Adams .
>>> Mr Hoffman’s property is zoned mixed use. We all know the impact of ART and that busy corner he lives on. He did get 100 signatures of neighbors supporting his fence height .
>>>
>>> After he applied for the variance and it was denied by the ZHE. He and his agent Mellia Walker appealed ZHE ( Zoning hearing examiner ) decision to deny the variance for the height of his fence to the Land Use hearing officer.
>>>
>>> The Land use hearing officer agreed that the ZHE errored and remanded it back to the ZHE with instructions. After the remand, the ZHE approved the variance for height amd the Land use hearing officer recommended to City council to uphold the decision .
>>> Councilor Pat David rejected the LUHO decision to uphold the his decision and it went in front of full city council hearing.
>>> I think the hearing was tabled and is set for full city council hearing on the 20th
>>>
>>> The NHNA has done this exact appeal process to other neighbors and business’s and it’s a real shame.
>>> Can you imagine what other neighbors might endure when targeted by the NHNA Board ?
>>>
>>> It’s gone political now so who knows what will happen to Mr Hoffman’s fence.
>>>
>>> I will respond to the general email when I get a chance but this email was intended for you
>>>
>>> Mark G
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>>> On Sep 14, 2021, at 12:34 PM, Robert L Anderson <citizen at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>
>>>> If you have something more we can add to this discussion of the fence this might be a good time to put it on the list if you feel ok.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Bob Anderson
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 13, 2021, at 6:29 PM, Mark Gonzales <markjefe at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I forgot to give you my cell -489-9600
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 13, 2021, at 6:28 PM, Mark Gonzales <markjefe at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert, yes I live at 219 Richmond SE .
>>>>> I’m not aware of the safety brigade but it sounds like we can use it
>>>>>
>>>>> You call me to discuss Mr Hoffman’s dilemma in further detail
>>>>>
>>>>> There are a few more details that the Board has left out of the email sent to you .
>>>>> Typical board behavior
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 13, 2021, at 2:51 PM, Robert L Anderson <citizen at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are on Richmond too? Where are you?
>>>>>> I am at the corner of Coal, 324 Richmond SE.
>>>>>> You are so right on about Richmond being one of the few streets to cross Central. It has turned my end of the street into a race track car noise zone and very dangerous.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have the Lead/Coal Safety Brigade, a group of volunteers trying to work on all this. Do you follow that work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 13, 2021, at 1:00 PM, Mark Gonzales <markjefe at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert, I don’t know if this issue was on the NHNA agenda. You can find out by emailing Gary Eyster . The board doesn’t for some reason add it to the email list .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I personally don’t have any problem with his fence either.
>>>>>> Now that the traffic has been blocked off going north-south on almost all street except Richmond our street is turned into a freeway and Gary is feeling the effects of it just as you and I are.
>>>>>> I feel for him as he has stated he has spent a tremendous amount of money trying to keep his fence .
>>>>>> Please let me know what you find out from the NHNA board
>>>>>> Thanks, Mark Gonzales
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 13, 2021, at 12:44 PM, Robert L Anderson <citizen at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you know has this been brought up on the NHNA list? I may have missed it. If not as you say it should
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would hope there would be some discussion of it as I don’t see any problem with the fence. It makes the area nicer imo since Silver has been turned into a commercial zone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 13, 2021, at 7:23 AM, Mark Gonzales <markjefe at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robert, Gary Hoffman is the owner of the property at corner of Richmond and Silver . The Neighborhood association filed an appeal with City departments to have the fence Mr Hoffman installed on his property removed even though he acquired proper permits .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps the board of Nob Hill Neighborhood Association, and president Gary Easter should explain themselves and their position on this matter and include their actions on this forum.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark Gonzales
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 12, 2021, at 9:02 PM, Robert L Anderson via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I saw a news item on KRQE this past week on a controversy about a wall/fence at the corner of Silver and Richmond. Maybe I have missed any discussion of this on the list but if anyone can point me to it I would be thankful.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Bob Anderson
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