On Jun 19, 2014, at 12:48 PM, "kbking" <kingkb@swcp.com<mailto:kingkb@swcp.com>> wrote:

Hi Jack,

Thanks for the note ~ I do want to clarify that it was I who suggested the burning (Sally just commented on the herbicides). Sorry if it seemed insulting, it wasn't meant to be. I've actually seen it used here in our neighborhood (super low flame right by the ground on short weeds) - seemed effective with appropriate use.

Please accept a little humor here: you could be smarter than anyone looks! I might actually recognize about 2 people if I saw them ~ it's a different world :-)

Karen
On Jun 19, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Jack Hinton wrote:

Karen,  I agree with just about everything you said.  I like the idea of a letter from the NHNA gently asking residents to take care of identified problems.  I take pride in my grass and large mulberry trees, even though I'm allergic to them.

However, I don't think my neighbors or AFD would appreciate me lighting their weeds on fire.  Sally should know all the facts before she hits the reply to all button.  I'm smarter than I look.

Jack

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On Jun 19, 2014, at 1:01 PM, kbking via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com<mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm@mailman.swcp.com>> wrote:

I love our neighborhood and how so many people care about the area! I've driven through more desolate parts of town and have felt immense gratitude to be here in Nob Hill, where I can walk down the street and enjoy the big trees and beautiful yards ~~ and the work so many put in to developing their landscape, sometimes gradually over long periods.

I want to say in advance on this note that I'm "one of those people" who often sees potential problems. I hope these thoughts can be seen as useful.

If you water someone else's yard without their permission it might be problematic - particularly if you are using their water supply. The property owner is paying for the water (whether directly, or indirectly through fees paid to a management corporation, yes?). I don't think we have a right, even collectively, to tell (or through watering, "force") the owner to spend the additional money on this resource.

I do believe we have a right to require safety, and I would think that the city can step in to help with that. Dead trees aren't safe. They break and fall on things like houses and cars. That said, cutting the trees down then becomes an option (not our favorite). ... and That said, I wonder if that wouldn't be expensive enough to encourage the owner to just go ahead and water the trees. (If the tenants are supposed to be doing it, maybe an automatic drip system could be installed).

I can appreciate the thought that an owner who has handed management of a property over to a corporation doesn't care --- but why assume it? Maybe we need to investigate what makes sense to care about: the trees, the expense of cutting down the trees OR the drop in property value when the place is allowed to loose the trees (landscaping counts a bit).

I don't know how to go about it all, but I think it might be nice for the NHNA to help out with a letter, if that's possible. It can be pretty difficult for an individual (or small group of) to approach an owner -- and the person who started this chain has tried to talk to the management corporation and been dismissed. Maybe a letter regarding neighborhood quality .... and see where you can bring in issues of safety (the city requires us to pull our weeds, there ought to be something in the rulebook about trees).

Well, thanks for the opportunity to share thoughts ~ (and Jack, please do take Sally's comments into true consideration - there are an increasing number of adults as well whose health is adversely affected by herbicides and other products. Maybe burn them.. the weeds :-)

Karen King



On Jun 19, 2014, at 9:53 AM, ronhalbgewachs via Neighbors_nobhill-nm wrote:

I would gather the renter doesn't care if the tree lives or dies.  Often such renters simply decide it is "not their job" to water plants, lawns, or trees.  Since there is a management company involved, the owner has little interest in what happens to the property.  Owners, in this case via the management company, pay the water bill since the city can place a lien on the property for unpaid water bills.



 Is there a way to get the word out that the management company is failing in their maintenance of the property?  Certainly contacting the owner is a first step.  However, we have a property down the street and I have contacted him about the maintenance of the property...bottom line...he simply doesn't care!  A problem with 311 in cases such as this is that a warning may be delivered to the property, but may never be seen by the management company and certainly not by the owner.





-----Original Message-----
From: Gary & Melodie Eyster via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
Sent: Jun 19, 2014 9:14 AM

To: 'Beverly Hill' , "'Smith, Nancy'" , neighbors@nobhill-nm.com<mailto:neighbors@nobhill-nm.com>
Subject: Re: [Neighbors] Dying Trees

Nancy and Faith, Maybe the property owner would like for the tree to
live.you can find his address at bernco.gov.assessor

Maybe the resident would help.Gary



From: Neighbors_nobhill-nm
[mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm-bounces@mailman.swcp.com] On Behalf Of Beverly
Hill via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 8:07 AM

Subject: Re: [Neighbors] Dying Trees



This is a difficult issue. The same thing happened next door to me. I
suggest calling 311 and asking to speak to the new city forester. The
position is filled now, and he would have the most accurate knowledge (I
would hope) about what can be done about this problem. Once you find out,
would you let me know what he says? I am concerned about it, too, and could
put something in the newsletter about how to handle the problem.



Good luck, and thanks for caring,

Beverly

NHNA Newsletter Editor (for now)

----- Original Message -----

From: Smith,Nancy via Neighbors_nobhill-nm

Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 3:48 PM

Subject: [Neighbors] Dying Trees



Nob Hill Association Albuquerque ,

As a proud property owner in Nob Hill, we ask if you have any suggestions on
how to deal with a rental property, handled by a management firm that will
not water their yard nor huge old trees ( 308 Montclaire Dr NE ). These poor
older trees have not been watered in over a year and are dying. My family
and I live across the street and am very concerned. We have spoken to the
management firm (HeroPM) and have been poo pooed. We have spoken to several
of our neighbors and they are equally concerned. Any ideas? Can NHNA help
us?

Thanks for your time.



Nancy A. Smith and Faith DeLong

309 Montclaire Dr NE

505-265-9588



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