[NMCCSC] Please Move Conversation // Re: SNOTEL Snow Report / 1-12-24

Sun Jan 14 08:35:09 MST 2024

I agree with Dana. I look to email for snow conditions and also get them
from Sandia Nordic, lots of them. But can delete those that are already in
the stream. It’s not a problem. Read the latest and then delete the rest.
Smile and be patient. People are just trying to help others go have fun.

Cheers,
Vicky

On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 5:37 PM dana_price--- via NMCCSCeGroup <
nmccscegroup at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:

> I personally don’t want to have to go to facebook to hear about access to
> the mountain closest to  most of our population. This is s very relevant
> topic.
> However, I would suggest getting a group together to explore solutions,
> perhaps coordinating with Sandia Nordic and the ski area. This is going to
> take a lot of work, not just complaining. How about putting out a call for
> people to work on the issue, and then take this conversation offline.
> Dana
>
> On 1/13/24 at 7:41 AM, Bet Gendron via NMCCSCeGroup wrote:
>
> From: "Bet Gendron via NMCCSCeGroup" <nmccscegroup at mailman.swcp.com>
> Date: January 13, 2024
> To: "Barry Ritchey" <barrywind505 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "NMCCSCEGroup Swcp" <nmccscegroup at mailman.swcp.com>
> Subject: [NMCCSC] Please Move Conversation // Re: SNOTEL Snow Report /
> 1-12-24
>
> Hi All-  Barry, Robert, Dean, Gil-
> Could you move this conversation out of the Club's Egroup realm?  You
> could talk between yourselves and/or move it to our Facebook site.  People
> really appreciate reducing the chatter into their inboxes. Just 'forward'
> to each other, not 'reply'.
> Meanwhile, we can all enjoy our newly cleared Crest rd and parking lots!
> Thanks, guys.  Bet
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 13, 2024, 7:26 AM Barry Ritchey via NMCCSCeGroup <
> nmccscegroup at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
>> Official NMDOT names of the guilty... or not guilty... of plowing..
>> .
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 8:52 PM Robert Evans via NMCCSCeGroup <
>> nmccscegroup at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Regarding plowing the crest Road, we don’t need to send anyone all the
>>> way to Colorado to learn how to deal with deep snow, only up to Santa Fe.
>>> The road through Hyde Park up to Aspen Vista and Santa Fe Ski area is
>>> plowed incredibly well just like deep snow areas in Colorado. They got over
>>> 4 feet of snow up there this week and also problems with drifting and the
>>> road was perfectly clear by Wednesday morning with wide lanes, plowed
>>> shoulders and turnouts, and very high snowbanks on the side. They must have
>>> the equipment up there, so why can’t it happen down here?
>>> Of course, there is a ski area up there, but I’m not sure that should
>>> make a big difference.
>>> Robert Evans
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 12, 2024, at 12:56 PM, Dean Kuethe via NMCCSCeGroup <
>>> nmccscegroup at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> I share the incredulity but we need to identify a way to fund the effort
>>> and inform public works or whoever that the snow plow needs to don chains,
>>> the road needs tall reflectors so the driver knows where the road is, etc.
>>>  [I saw the plow stuck twice this winter already.  In one case the rescue
>>> grader got stuck as well until the driver put on chains]  Perhaps someone
>>> knows how to put a mill levey or something on a ballot or how we might
>>> raise enough money from winter sports enthusiasts.  At present, it
>>> appears Bernallillo county is not equipped to plow a road in a place where
>>> it really snows.  Perhaps in a program similar to sending a chef to Europe
>>> to learn cooking, we can send a team to Colorado to learn how to plow deep
>>> snow.  We need to pay plow drivers enough to plow during wee morning hours
>>> so they don't have to plow around stuck vehicles.
>>> I doubt this can happen this winter.  Us winter recreation fans and
>>> associated businesses probably need to "step up to the plate".  The other
>>> capitalist entities that may join are the companies that need access to the
>>> communication towers.
>>> One of those giant snow blowers they use in Wolf Creek Pass would be
>>> great but I bet they cost a fortune.  Traditionally, our plow leaves
>>> huge banks of snow in the road in heavy snow years, reducing the road to
>>> one lane in spots. It costs money to remedy that.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 12:26 PM Gil Stewart via NMCCSCeGroup <
>>> nmccscegroup at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I don't want you to take this wrong or it is not meant to be
>>>> disrespectful but the road to the crest needs to be open and i mean
>>>> yesterday. The States largest mountain next to the largest city in New
>>>> Mexico and w no-one can access it. I realize there is not enough man power
>>>> but that response is not acceptable me especoally now that the tram is
>>>> closed.There I said it I feel better now.
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 12, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Barry Ritchey via NMCCSCeGroup <
>>>> nmccscegroup at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Snow report from SNOTEL sites around the Southwest. Friday, January 12,
>>>> 2024.
>>>>
>>>> These numbers are more aligned with what a plunged ski pole might
>>>> measure, compared to a magic snowdrift at a ski area. Most NM mountains
>>>> have a snowpack well over 100% of normal, with SW Colorado mountains still
>>>> below normal. But who knows what the new normal is…
>>>>
>>>> Inches of snowpack today, Jan 12, and a week ago.
>>>>
>>>> Sandias – No SNOTEL sensor, but it’s good to excellent. But will they
>>>> ever plow the road?
>>>>
>>>> Santa Fe – 44”, up from 32” a week ago.
>>>>
>>>> Jemez (Quemazon) – 30” up from 21”
>>>>
>>>> Hopewell Lake – 31” up from 23” (Check NMRoads before driving up. US64
>>>> is prone to closings.)
>>>>
>>>> Cumbress/Chama – 48” doubled from 24”
>>>>
>>>> Wolf Creek Pass – 59” up from 32”
>>>>
>>>> Red Mtn. Pass – 38” up from 28”
>>>>
>>>> Let it snow,
>>>>
>>>> Ritchey, Tele Ranger
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