Back in the '80s and into the early '90s, it seemed ski areas like Santa Fe, Wolf Creek, Los Alamos and Ruidoso, areas which have a relatively serious mountain approach, had a local/county/forest/DOT/state law enforcement type stationed at the bottom of the hill to check for vehicles either having chains or 4WD/AWD. Inappropriate vehicles were turned away. It also seems like the roads were plowed less and there were less incidents. Now we have chaos and mayhem on a big powder day...

At Santa Fe this past Saturday, we witnessed about three very serious confrontational incidents between people getting aggro... involving inappropriate passing, people blocking, yelling face to face, not helping as a form of punishment... Some token shows of decency and common courtesy, but the No-Friends-On-A-Powder-Day adage was definitely exemplified. The first few minutes of the Triple opening up [over an hour late] with an overflowing maze, also brought out the worst powder fever symptoms in a few people...

From: Will Mitchell <dr.willmitchell@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 7:42 AM
To: B
Cc: NMCCSC Egroups; Alan Shapiro
Subject: Re: [NMCCSC] DRIVING IN THE SNOW

I was stuck on that road, not moving, for 45 minutes. At first there were reports of cars off the road or stuck, but I never passed a single one like that. Then there was the report of the snowplow that turned over, and I did see that when I finally got to it.

I am not disagreeing about the problem of people with 2WD and no chains trying to drive up there after a new snow.

- Will Mitchell

On Feb 24, 2019, at 9:37 AM, B via NMCCSCeGroup <nmccscegroup@mailman.swcp.com> wrote:

Amazing how a few hours can transform driving conditions. Took us an extra hour to slither up to Ski Santa Fe yesterday morning, due to all the idiots in denial of their FWD vehicles not being good vehicles for driving after a 24" dump. For the drive down the mountain and home, the majority of the roads were literally dry.

Warning, sermon to follow: Guess I'm preaching here, but if you are serious about skiing, you either own a 4WD/AWD drive vehicle, have a 2WD drive with chains ready to install and/or a set of 4 snow tires or have have a really good relationship with a friend who does have an aforementioned vehicle.

End of sermon,

Ritchey-TeleRanger

From: NMCCSCeGroup <nmccscegroup-bounces@mailman.swcp.com> on behalf of Alan Shapiro via NMCCSCeGroup <nmccscegroup@mailman.swcp.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 8:21 AM
To: NMCCSC Egroups
Subject: [NMCCSC] Chama trip today and tomorrow

Reports of northern NM's icy road conditions (and our local 28" dump of
snow, at the SF Ski Basin) have Sarah and I altering our plans. We will
ski Black Canyon late this morning, then re-evaluate our Sunday plan,
leaning towards local skiing tomorrow too.

Alan Shapiro
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