[Awclist] Rio Chama
Deborah DeMack
ddemack57 at hotmail.com
Mon Feb 27 22:12:48 MST 2012
You do not need a permit for the Monastery Run. You do need a permit for the upper part of the run, where one puts in just below the dam.
From: Wes at superiormortgage-nm.com
To: robeyfamily at earthlink.net; rsouthwick at shamanproducts.com; steve.harris39 at gmail.com; sara_traub at yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:47:19 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Awclist] Rio Chama
I MAY be mistaken
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From: Peggy Robey <robeyfamily at earthlink.net>
To: Wes Moore <Wes at superiormortgage-nm.com>, Robert Southwick <rsouthwick at shamanproducts.com>, 'Steve Harris' <steve.harris39 at gmail.com>, 'Sara Traub' <sara_traub at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Sat, Feb 25, 2012 17:29:42 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [Awclist] Rio Chama
but I thought you needed to have applied but not drawn a permit for the weekday launch
peggy robey
At 09:54 AM 2/25/2012, Wes Moore wrote:
>No permit required unless u launch friday Saturday or Sunday. Good >for us self employed Albuquerque people
>Never a permit needed for 8 mile day run
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>-----Original message-----
>From: Robert Southwick
>To: Wes Moore , Steve Harris >, Sara Traub
>Cc: Tim Scofield , Frank Walsh >, awclist at swcp.com
>Sent: Sat, Feb 25, 2012 16:51:35 GMT+00:00
>Subject: RE: [Awclist] Rio Chama
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>Why so? I was under the impression that you always had to have a >permit whether or not you got one in the initial draw.
>You can call in for canceled or unused permits so how does Friday >figure into that picture?
>celia
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>From: Wes Moore [mailto:Wes at superiormortgage-nm.com]
>Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 9:43 AM
>To: Steve Harris; Sara Traub
>Cc: 'Tim Scofield'; Robert Southwick; 'Frank Walsh'; awclist at swcp.com
>Subject: Re: [Awclist] Rio Chama
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>If u don't draw a permit you can't launch on a Friday, so I would >say better to gear higher flows around non holiday weekends.
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>-----Original message-----
>From: Steve Harris
>To: Sara Traub
>Cc: 'Wes Moore' , 'Tim >Scofield' , Robert Southwick >, 'Frank Walsh' >, awclist at swcp.com
>Sent: Sat, Feb 25, 2012 15:47:04 GMT+00:00
>Subject: Re: [Awclist] Rio Chama
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>SARA and all: Thanks for responding. A couple of questions: Would it >make sense that these 3 weekend would aim toward 3 day holidays >(Memorial Day, 4th of July, Labor Day) or avoid them? What about the >idea of encouraging more weekday trips? Is that impractical for most >ABQ boaters?
>
>Steve Harris
>Rio Grande Restoration
>HCR 69 Box 3-C
>Embudo, NM 87531
>
>home/office: 575-751-1269
>fax: same
>Mobile: 575-770-2502
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>steve.harris39 at gmail.com
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>On Feb 24, 2012, at 9:50 PM, Sara Traub wrote:
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> > I also vote for 3 weekends at 800.
> >
> > Sara Traub
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> > --- On Thu, 2/23/12, Robert Southwick > wrote:
> >
> > From: Robert Southwick
> > Subject: Re: [Awclist] Rio Chama
> > To: "'Wes Moore'" , "'Tim Scofield'" >
> > Cc: "'Frank Walsh'" , awclist at swcp.com
> > Date: Thursday, February 23, 2012, 1:11 PM
> >
> > I second that - Celia Southwick
> >
> > From: awclist-bounces at swcp.com [mailto:awclist-bounces at swcp.com] > On > Behalf Of Wes Moore
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:40 AM
> > To: Tim Scofield
> > Cc: Frank Walsh; awclist at swcp.com
> > Subject: Re: [Awclist] Rio Chama
> >
> > 3 weekends at 800.
> >
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> > Sent from my iPad
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> > Wes Moore
> > VP/Partner/Sr. Loan Officer
> > Superior Mortgage Services, LLC
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> > (505) 249-4506 cell
> > www.moore4yourmoney.com
> >
> > On Feb 21, 2012, at 10:16 PM, "Tim Scofield" > wrote:
> >
> >> I never received a response to the email below about flows.
> >>
> >> Given that the Bureau will try to have a flushing flow > (hopefully >> 5k in a good water year) in the spring, and a limited > amount of >> water, what release flows would you like to see later > in the season >> when there is minimal water in the Rio Grande? > Would you rather >> boat one weekend at 2400cfs or three weekends > at 800cfs or 4 >> weekends at 600cfs? (Or some other flow level)
> >>
> >> Tim
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Tim Scofield >> wrote:
> >> The rafters that said that the trip went too fast above 1000 > cfs >> were private boaters from Colorado.
> >>
> >> I personally just spend more time exploring when the water's high.
> >>
> >> The way I see it, It's really a question of at what point would > you >> not bother going kayaking/rafting/canoeing assuming that the > RIo >> has already peaked and is down to a couple hundred. At what > point >> would you not bother to even go up to the Chama.
> >>
> >> There will be a weekend or two that get a peaking flow in the >> > spring to try to maintain a healthy ecosystem, but this section > of >> the Chama is below El Vado, and they're going to try to store > as >> much water as they can as high up as they can. So we're not > going >> to see really big flows like we've ocassionaly seen on the > Rio >> Grande. They doe have some storage in Abiqu lake, but it > is >> somewhat limited for various reasons.
> >>
> >> The question is would you rather boat one weekend at 2400cfs > or >> three weekends at 800cfs or 4 weekends at 600cfs. Assuming > that >> there's enough water for any releases at all.
> >>
> >> It's also problem if they don't keep at least 150 cfs in the > river >> at all times, which they sometimes don't, because the > whole >> ecosystem up there starts to suffer.
> >>
> >> Tim
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 8:32 PM, monica a. martin >> wrote:
> >> I think it's time to point out the commercial boater > perspective: >> many have had to boat this river with customers and > their gear in >> 14-15 foot rafts in the 200's. This certainly > isn't ideal. Many >> comfortably boat it at 500cfs. If you get to > do it at 1000cfs, >> you've got it posh. Anything above 600cfs > works pretty nicely and >> many of us find it enjoyable in work or > play at this level. Isn't >> maneuvering around rocks part of what > makes it interesting?
> >>
> >> Monica & Josh
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