[NMCycling] Singing Rd on NM 333....GABAC is against?????
paul via Bike-racers
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Sat Nov 28 17:56:43 MST 2015
Yes, like with Paula's death. The 16 year old driver claimed Paula ran
the light - if I remember correctly - and that was that. Also with
Secreta (sorry for mutilating his name) at Comanche and the North Div
bike trail. The hit-and-run driver came back and claimed he ran the stop
sign. John Dunn, etc. etc. Dead men tell no tails...I'm buying a bike cam.
On 11/28/2015 05:47 PM, Aaro Heinonen via Bike-racers wrote:
> At 530 am, who were the witnesses to his going against the light?
> Himself and the motorist?????
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> On Saturday, November 28, 2015 7:15 PM, Robert L. Browning II via
> Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
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> Then there’s this, from today’s front page.
> http://www.abqjournal.com/682513/news/excerpt-running-red-light-cost-cyclist-his-life.html
> Now the article focuses on one cyclist who was killed, likely
> running a light, but I refer you to this gem buried within:
> “The number of cyclist deaths per capita for New Mexico was second
> only to that of Florida from 2010 to 2012, and 50 percent higher
> than the national rate, according to the state Department of
> Health. How many, one might wonder, were caused by a cyclist’s
> decision?”
> I grow weary of the lazy inductive reasoning on the part of people
> who write the newspaper with something to the effect of “I saw a
> cyclist run a signal, therefore all cyclists run signals and
> deserve what they get.” But this is a staff member who is too lazy
> to do a simple Google search. Doesn’t take much effort to know,
> that of the few comprehensive studies of motorist/cyclist
> collisions, the single greatest cause of those collisions is
> “cyclist overtaken by vehicle from the rear.”
> Robert L. Browning II
> browning5800 at comcast.net
> *From:*Bike-racers [mailto:bike-racers-bounces at mailman.swcp.com]
> *On Behalf Of *John Vance via Bike-racers
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 28, 2015 4:59 PM
> *To:* Nathan Masek
> *Cc:* NM Cycling
> *Subject:* Re: [NMCycling] Singing Rd on NM 333....GABAC is
> against?????
> Mentally unstable people write letters to the editor all the
> time. Sometimes newspapers publish them. I wouldn't worry too
> much about it.
> On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Nathan Masek via Bike-racers
> <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com
> <mailto:bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com>> wrote:
> Ok, so here is my position on the subject. I am a bike racer,
> I've been racing for over 25 yrs. I am also a transportation
> planner by profession.
> My feeling is this - yes, drivers face many distractions and are
> quite irresponsible and in some cases, downright dangerous and
> worse, criminally negligent to the peril of innocent cyclists.
> That being said, the roads must be shared, by all vehicles as
> designated with signage, policy, posted speed, etc. The singing
> highway is one of two of its kind in the United States. It's an
> amazing feature that actually adds quite a bit of character and
> charm to an otherwise fairly boring roadway. I have friends from
> out of state who have noted it on social media, it's now part of
> the Rt 66 experience for the numerous of venturers that explore Rt
> 66 and happen to come upon it; it's a really cool thing! It is
> also a fairly short segment of the roadway. To call for its
> removal, to me, is quite misdirected, and fails to recognize the
> primary issue - that of careless drivers.
> Now, to have the GABAC write a letter, well, look what it has
> spawned - a letter to the editor of the largest newspaper in the
> state, basically slamming the cycling community as a bunch of
> wackos. As a cyclist, I don't appreciate this. I speak out of
> experience of having been on the GABAC in the past, and I can
> attest that it is a delicate balance to reconcile the relationship
> between cars and bicycles. The cyclists have legislation behind
> them these day, and some times even that is not enough
> On Nov 27, 2015, at 7:32 AM, Nathan Masek via Bike-racers
> <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com
> <mailto:bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com>> wrote:
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> Hey guys, so I just read in the paper this morning that the
> Greater Abq Bicycle Advisory Committee (GABAC) had submitted a
> letter against the "singing highway" in the Tijeras Canyon in NM
> 333 - is this true?
>
> If so, would someone from that group care to respond?
>
> Thx, Nathan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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