[NMCycling] Mari Holden trivia

paul via Bike-racers bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com
Wed Jul 20 21:07:29 MDT 2016 

Oh yeah, I remember V-R. Wicked storm front moved through just before 
the start. Off the back before getting out of the "neutral zone" parking 
lot. Looked down at speedo at 1' and saw 40+miles. Me and ? didn't catch 
the group until 1.5'. We finished about 10" behind you guys at 2'55" I 
think? Once in a lifetime race. Ahuahua!


On 07/20/2016 02:40 PM, Clay Moseley wrote:
>
> I was at the turn-around that day (I was too poor to afford the entry 
> fee). I very well remember the long line of traffic that was held up 
> just before the "big guys" (Frey, Bostick, etc.) came through the turn 
> around just north of Estancia, including some very slow-accelerating, 
> heavily loaded trucks.
>
> Now, having been there myself, I know how much a truck moving at 
> speeds in the 40s (mph) helps when you're averaging 34 mph yourself.  
> I've had a lot of long car trips with Kent Bostick to hear the 
> inch-by-inch replay of that day. Many factors were at play, but the 
> bottom line is that Frey was the only guy who could pedal that fast 
> that day (on a fixie, no less...). Recall that Frey also win the 
> national TT championship at the 1988 Olympic trials, ahead of arguably 
> one of the most talented group of American TT strong-men ever 
> assembled (Norm Alvis, etc.).
>
> I've been on Frey's wheel in many hard races, and the guy was the 
> master of the "big wind-up," where everyone else was completely spun 
> out, or maxed out, and he could always reach for more with just a 
> little more RPM that no one else could muster. I can vividly remember 
> the look of his pedal stroke and the back of his legs, and how he 
> would actually sit up straighter and higher on his bike to do it (vs. 
> the famous "Bosti-meter" head tilt and full spasm body crouch of Kent 
> Bostick).
>
> Besides Jim Warsa, anyone else remember the "Great Vaughn to Roswell 
> Road Race" the day we had that tailwind and did 90+miles in like 2:45? 
> Classic John Frey conditions...
>
> On Jul 20, 2016 1:15 PM, "Warsa, James S" <warsa at lanl.gov 
> <mailto:warsa at lanl.gov>> wrote:
>
>     ​​Weather. Double-tailwind that day.
>
>
>     --
>     Jim Warsa
>     Transport Methods Section
>     Computational Physics and Methods Group, CCS-2
>     Computer, Computational and Statistical Sciences Division
>     Los Alamos National Laboratory
>     505-667-0214 <tel:505-667-0214>
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>     *From:* Bike-racers <bike-racers-bounces at mailman.swcp.com
>     <mailto:bike-racers-bounces at mailman.swcp.com>> on behalf of George
>     Tapley via Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com
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>     *Sent:* Wednesday, July 20, 2016 12:19 PM
>     *To:* paul; Craig M. Doolittle; Craig Denman; Clay Moseley; Chad
>     Patterson; NM Bike Racers
>     *Subject:* Re: [NMCycling] Mari Holden trivia
>     Chad,
>     Back in the fast days before the shoulder there was the tire wear
>     strip. That was the fast line.
>
>     I know I have spoken with a number of people over the years on the
>     record and many will not attempt it because the
>     course is not closed.    One team manager actually said that Frey
>     had to be drafting the day he set his record.
>
>     Yeah, Steve Wood had just graduated from Highland High.  I think
>     he is still the youngest winner of road nationals
>     and may still have the largest winning margin.   A ride legends
>     are made of.  Flatted 2x caught back solo both times.
>     Went through the field and attacked after the second lap.  Tom
>     Doughty was the only one to go with him.  Then he dropped
>     Doughty on Watertower hill.   Solo'd in for the victory.
>
>
>
>
>     On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 8:36 AM, paul via Bike-racers
>     <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com
>     <mailto:bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com>> wrote:
>
>
>     ...and the alibaba face mask, gigantic spoke protector (disk wheel
>     precursor), Schwinn Ashtabula forks, 12 spokes(?), ...
>
>     On 07/19/2016 05:26 PM, Craig M. Doolittle via Bike-racers wrote:
>     And on the bottom of his shoes!
>     *From:*Bike-racers [mailto:bike-racers-bounces at mailman.swcp.com]
>     *On Behalf Of *Craig Denman via Bike-racers
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, July 19, 2016 5:21 PM
>     *To:* Clay Moseley; Chad Patterson; NM Bike Racers
>     *Subject:* Re: [NMCycling] Mari Holden trivia
>     I remember John Frey's first TT record because I spent so much
>     time looking at the stenciled 51:57 on the back of his seat tube
>     -- and recall the 600-grit sandpaper on all of the tube leading
>     edges placed there for the hype of speed.
>     Craig Denman
>     On 07/19/2016 03:53 PM, Clay Moseley via Bike-racers wrote:
>
>         John Frey once held the national record at around 52:00 early
>         in his career with RGRT. I remember when it was still above
>         the 50:00 mark around 1987 or so, then came the "fast years"
>         from 1988 to recent.  I think Kent was the first one to go
>         sub-50 with his Ten-Speed Drive Guercotti, and within a year
>         he got that down to 48:44 or so, when Frey did his thing in
>         1990 (47:35?).  On that same day, Kent also went
>         47:40-something.  I only recall one other person going sub-48
>         on the Moriarty course, and that was Colby Pearce with his
>         high-dollar Lotus and Superman position.  In recent years, it
>         seems that the 50:00 minute barrier has become harder to break.
>         All that being said, I think the Brits were the first ones to
>         make the 25-mile time trial a famous distance that was focused
>         on for speed records.  Our times compare closely with theirs,
>         but it wasn't until Boardman came along that the 47-minute
>         barrier was broken.  Then there was a string of them as well.
>         Anyway, back to your original question, Mari Holden's time is
>         pretty killer.  Many top-level (Pro/Cat-1) men can't time
>         trial that fast on an equitable course with the same
>         conditions.  That time will stand for a while.
>         On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Chad Patterson via
>         Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com
>         <mailto:bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com>> wrote:
>         Can anyone tell me the last time a 51:36 would've been the
>         outright winner of Record Challenge?  I'm just looking for
>         something that will illustrate to the average sports fan how
>         ridiculously fast that is.
>
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