[NMCycling] Bike-racers Digest, Vol 47, Issue 4

Tue Mar 6 23:06:18 MST 2018

The sad truth is a bolt cutter will cut a fat cable in about 5-10 seconds.
A $50 battery grinder will cut through the fattest U-lock in about 30
seconds. Just surf the web. There are plenty of videos showing how fast you
can cut a lock or cable.

See this comprehensive rating of a bunch of locks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxIbAFnmsIQ

Also for a new concept see:
https://ottodesignworks.com/shop/ottolock
A BikeRadar review of this new lock that seems to do well against bolt
cutter and grinder:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiVGho83Rf8

Be safe. Good luck.
Carl

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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Tim Brown via Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com>
> To: Bike-Racers <bike-racers at swcp.com>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 12:48:40 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NMCycling] Bike theft questions
> I had one bike stolen off a friend's front porch while dropping something
> off. I was inside for less than five minutes, so now I'm a stickler for
> locking with a U-lock always, no matter how long.
>
> My sister has had two unlocked bikes stolen out of her garage when she
> left the door open.
>
> A friend had his cable locked bike stolen from outside O'Neill's.
>
> A friend had his stolen off his car in a supposed watched valet lot. He
> made a conscious choice to leave the bike unlocked because it's worth much
> less than the damage to the car would have been if someone were to pry the
> rack off the roof. That one had a happy ending as he saw it on Craigslist,
> met the seller, and called the cops.
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 10:02 AM, Jackie Shane via Bike-racers <
> bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
>> Two bikes stolen, but never with a u-lock.
>> Jackie
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Diane Albert via Bike-racers <
>> bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I had 2 bikes stolen because I left the garage door open (Uptown)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I had a bike stolen outside the UNM Law school front entrance because I
>>> had it locked with a cable, not u lock.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Diane
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Bike-racers [mailto:bike-racers-bounces at mailman.swcp.com] *On
>>> Behalf Of *John Vance via Bike-racers
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 6, 2018 9:30 AM
>>> *To:* mike
>>> *Cc:* Bike-Racers
>>> *Subject:* Re: [NMCycling] Bike theft questions
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've had an empty Yakima rack stolen off a car in my driveway via the
>>> crowbar method.  Remember that the rack itself is worth some coin.  The car
>>> next to it also had a Yakima rack, but with rain gutter mounts and they
>>> couldn't pry those off.  They ruined the trim on the car trying though.
>>> Three bikes stolen from my parent's garage a couple of decades ago.  They
>>> took one because my dad left the garage door open.  A couple of weeks later
>>> they came back when nobody was home and collected the rest.
>>>
>>> Right now all my bikes are locked up in the garage.  Like you said, I'm
>>> hoping that will slow them down enough to where it isn't worth it.  Maybe
>>> they won't just smash or hacksaw the frames to collect the components.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 9:11 AM, mike via Bike-racers <
>>> bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> In the interest of conversation, I’ve been wondering about keeping my
>>> bikes from getting stolen by learning from other’s tragedies.
>>>
>>> It seems like mostly the stolen bikes have had a cable cut.
>>>
>>> How many have lost a bike that’s had a chain or U-lock cut/broken?
>>>
>>> I’ve heard of lots of the bikes taken off of racks. I’m assuming these
>>> are racks that hold bikes with both wheels attached. How many bikes have
>>> been stolen where the bikes are attached with a fork mount (with the front
>>> wheel removed)?
>>>
>>> My theory is that it’s easy to just ride a bike away, but the extra time
>>> it takes to defeat the lock AND  remove the fork from a rack makes my bike
>>> a less attractive target. Especially if there’s no front wheel to ride away
>>> on. It is a couple extra steps to secure the bike, however, for me it’s
>>> worth it. Yes, they can steal the bike with no front wheel, but it’s not as
>>> attractive as an entire bike.
>>> It depends on how much your bike or bling on your bike is worth.
>>>
>>> I wonder about bikes stolen from garages. Are both wheels on the bike in
>>> the garage?
>>> Even in the garage, I take the front wheel off. If I’m gone for any
>>> length of time I lock my bikes with a chain. Although inside the garage a
>>> thief has much more time to defeat my security.
>>>
>>> The bottom line is that anything can be stolen. The trick is to make my
>>> stuff not worth the extra effort. Thieves are looking for an easy target.
>>> My task is to balance the effort to secure my stuff with the effort to use
>>> it.
>>>
>>> What systems have worked? Have you found evidence of someone attempting
>>> to steal your bike, but were defeated? What was your system?
>>>
>>> Just wonderin’
>>> mike lucero
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Sam Rynas via Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com>
> To: Tim Brown <tjbrown73 at gmail.com>
> Cc: Bike-Racers <bike-racers at swcp.com>
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 12:58:46 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NMCycling] Bike theft questions
> Brandon had one stolen - Cable lock in ABQ
>
> I had one attempted theft, U lock, they couldnt break it.
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 12:48 PM, Tim Brown via Bike-racers <
> bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
>> I had one bike stolen off a friend's front porch while dropping something
>> off. I was inside for less than five minutes, so now I'm a stickler for
>> locking with a U-lock always, no matter how long.
>>
>> My sister has had two unlocked bikes stolen out of her garage when she
>> left the door open.
>>
>> A friend had his cable locked bike stolen from outside O'Neill's.
>>
>> A friend had his stolen off his car in a supposed watched valet lot. He
>> made a conscious choice to leave the bike unlocked because it's worth much
>> less than the damage to the car would have been if someone were to pry the
>> rack off the roof. That one had a happy ending as he saw it on Craigslist,
>> met the seller, and called the cops.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 10:02 AM, Jackie Shane via Bike-racers <
>> bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Two bikes stolen, but never with a u-lock.
>>> Jackie
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Diane Albert via Bike-racers <
>>> bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had 2 bikes stolen because I left the garage door open (Uptown)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I had a bike stolen outside the UNM Law school front entrance because I
>>>> had it locked with a cable, not u lock.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Diane
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Bike-racers [mailto:bike-racers-bounces at mailman.swcp.com] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *John Vance via Bike-racers
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 6, 2018 9:30 AM
>>>> *To:* mike
>>>> *Cc:* Bike-Racers
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [NMCycling] Bike theft questions
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've had an empty Yakima rack stolen off a car in my driveway via the
>>>> crowbar method.  Remember that the rack itself is worth some coin.  The car
>>>> next to it also had a Yakima rack, but with rain gutter mounts and they
>>>> couldn't pry those off.  They ruined the trim on the car trying though.
>>>> Three bikes stolen from my parent's garage a couple of decades ago.  They
>>>> took one because my dad left the garage door open.  A couple of weeks later
>>>> they came back when nobody was home and collected the rest.
>>>>
>>>> Right now all my bikes are locked up in the garage.  Like you said, I'm
>>>> hoping that will slow them down enough to where it isn't worth it.  Maybe
>>>> they won't just smash or hacksaw the frames to collect the components.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 9:11 AM, mike via Bike-racers <
>>>> bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In the interest of conversation, I’ve been wondering about keeping my
>>>> bikes from getting stolen by learning from other’s tragedies.
>>>>
>>>> It seems like mostly the stolen bikes have had a cable cut.
>>>>
>>>> How many have lost a bike that’s had a chain or U-lock cut/broken?
>>>>
>>>> I’ve heard of lots of the bikes taken off of racks. I’m assuming these
>>>> are racks that hold bikes with both wheels attached. How many bikes have
>>>> been stolen where the bikes are attached with a fork mount (with the front
>>>> wheel removed)?
>>>>
>>>> My theory is that it’s easy to just ride a bike away, but the extra
>>>> time it takes to defeat the lock AND  remove the fork from a rack makes my
>>>> bike a less attractive target. Especially if there’s no front wheel to ride
>>>> away on. It is a couple extra steps to secure the bike, however, for me
>>>> it’s worth it. Yes, they can steal the bike with no front wheel, but it’s
>>>> not as attractive as an entire bike.
>>>> It depends on how much your bike or bling on your bike is worth.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder about bikes stolen from garages. Are both wheels on the bike
>>>> in the garage?
>>>> Even in the garage, I take the front wheel off. If I’m gone for any
>>>> length of time I lock my bikes with a chain. Although inside the garage a
>>>> thief has much more time to defeat my security.
>>>>
>>>> The bottom line is that anything can be stolen. The trick is to make my
>>>> stuff not worth the extra effort. Thieves are looking for an easy target.
>>>> My task is to balance the effort to secure my stuff with the effort to use
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> What systems have worked? Have you found evidence of someone attempting
>>>> to steal your bike, but were defeated? What was your system?
>>>>
>>>> Just wonderin’
>>>> mike lucero
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Bike-racers mailing list
>>>> Bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com
>>>> https://mailman.swcp.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bike-racers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Timothy C. Holm via Bike-racers" <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com>
> To: "'Tim Brown'" <tjbrown73 at gmail.com>, Bike-Racers <bike-racers at swcp.com
> >
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 20:00:15 +0000
> Subject: Re: [NMCycling] Bike theft questions
>
> I had a bike stolen from my garage when I left my garage door open. Then I
> had another bike stolen when I left my garage door open again ….
>
>
>
> My favorite was an attempted bike theft right outside the nasty Chinese
> food place that was near where Central and Lomas meet. Person left bike
> outside by window of restaurant and placed order. Homeless dude sauntered
> up and got on bike and started riding away. The owner of the restaurant and
> the 3 schmuck customers (self included) ran him down and got bike back,
> with owner of restaurant cussing the thief out in Chinese.
>
>
>
> Life in the 505
>
>
>
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> *From:* Bike-racers [mailto:bike-racers-bounces at mailman.swcp.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Tim Brown via Bike-racers
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 12:49 PM
> *To:* Bike-Racers
> *Subject:* Re: [NMCycling] Bike theft questions
>
>
>
> ***
>
> I had one bike stolen off a friend's front porch while dropping something
> off. I was inside for less than five minutes, so now I'm a stickler for
> locking with a U-lock always, no matter how long.
>
>
>
> My sister has had two unlocked bikes stolen out of her garage when she
> left the door open.
>
>
>
> A friend had his cable locked bike stolen from outside O'Neill's.
>
>
>
> A friend had his stolen off his car in a supposed watched valet lot. He
> made a conscious choice to leave the bike unlocked because it's worth much
> less than the damage to the car would have been if someone were to pry the
> rack off the roof. That one had a happy ending as he saw it on Craigslist,
> met the seller, and called the cops.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 10:02 AM, Jackie Shane via Bike-racers <
> bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
> Two bikes stolen, but never with a u-lock.
>
> Jackie
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Diane Albert via Bike-racers <
> bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
> I had 2 bikes stolen because I left the garage door open (Uptown)
>
>
>
> I had a bike stolen outside the UNM Law school front entrance because I
> had it locked with a cable, not u lock.
>
>
>
> Diane
>
>
>
> *From:* Bike-racers [mailto:bike-racers-bounces at mailman.swcp.com] *On
> Behalf Of *John Vance via Bike-racers
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 6, 2018 9:30 AM
> *To:* mike
> *Cc:* Bike-Racers
> *Subject:* Re: [NMCycling] Bike theft questions
>
>
>
> I've had an empty Yakima rack stolen off a car in my driveway via the
> crowbar method.  Remember that the rack itself is worth some coin.  The car
> next to it also had a Yakima rack, but with rain gutter mounts and they
> couldn't pry those off.  They ruined the trim on the car trying though.
> Three bikes stolen from my parent's garage a couple of decades ago.  They
> took one because my dad left the garage door open.  A couple of weeks later
> they came back when nobody was home and collected the rest.
>
> Right now all my bikes are locked up in the garage.  Like you said, I'm
> hoping that will slow them down enough to where it isn't worth it.  Maybe
> they won't just smash or hacksaw the frames to collect the components.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 9:11 AM, mike via Bike-racers <
> bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
> In the interest of conversation, I’ve been wondering about keeping my
> bikes from getting stolen by learning from other’s tragedies.
>
> It seems like mostly the stolen bikes have had a cable cut.
>
> How many have lost a bike that’s had a chain or U-lock cut/broken?
>
> I’ve heard of lots of the bikes taken off of racks. I’m assuming these are
> racks that hold bikes with both wheels attached. How many bikes have been
> stolen where the bikes are attached with a fork mount (with the front wheel
> removed)?
>
> My theory is that it’s easy to just ride a bike away, but the extra time
> it takes to defeat the lock AND  remove the fork from a rack makes my bike
> a less attractive target. Especially if there’s no front wheel to ride away
> on. It is a couple extra steps to secure the bike, however, for me it’s
> worth it. Yes, they can steal the bike with no front wheel, but it’s not as
> attractive as an entire bike.
> It depends on how much your bike or bling on your bike is worth.
>
> I wonder about bikes stolen from garages. Are both wheels on the bike in
> the garage?
> Even in the garage, I take the front wheel off. If I’m gone for any length
> of time I lock my bikes with a chain. Although inside the garage a thief
> has much more time to defeat my security.
>
> The bottom line is that anything can be stolen. The trick is to make my
> stuff not worth the extra effort. Thieves are looking for an easy target.
> My task is to balance the effort to secure my stuff with the effort to use
> it.
>
> What systems have worked? Have you found evidence of someone attempting to
> steal your bike, but were defeated? What was your system?
>
> Just wonderin’
> mike lucero
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Beth Olsen via Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com>
> To: Bike-Racers <bike-racers at swcp.com>, mike <malucero at comcast.net>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2018 20:17:16 +0000
> Subject: Re: [NMCycling] Bike theft questions
> Just keep the bike in your car, store it in your bedroom and pack a gun
> under your pillow.
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 9:12 AM mike via Bike-racers <
> bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
>> In the interest of conversation, I’ve been wondering about keeping my
>> bikes from getting stolen by learning from other’s tragedies.
>>
>> It seems like mostly the stolen bikes have had a cable cut.
>>
>> How many have lost a bike that’s had a chain or U-lock cut/broken?
>>
>> I’ve heard of lots of the bikes taken off of racks. I’m assuming these
>> are racks that hold bikes with both wheels attached. How many bikes have
>> been stolen where the bikes are attached with a fork mount (with the front
>> wheel removed)?
>>
>> My theory is that it’s easy to just ride a bike away, but the extra time
>> it takes to defeat the lock AND  remove the fork from a rack makes my bike
>> a less attractive target. Especially if there’s no front wheel to ride away
>> on. It is a couple extra steps to secure the bike, however, for me it’s
>> worth it. Yes, they can steal the bike with no front wheel, but it’s not as
>> attractive as an entire bike.
>> It depends on how much your bike or bling on your bike is worth.
>>
>> I wonder about bikes stolen from garages. Are both wheels on the bike in
>> the garage?
>> Even in the garage, I take the front wheel off. If I’m gone for any
>> length of time I lock my bikes with a chain. Although inside the garage a
>> thief has much more time to defeat my security.
>>
>> The bottom line is that anything can be stolen. The trick is to make my
>> stuff not worth the extra effort. Thieves are looking for an easy target.
>> My task is to balance the effort to secure my stuff with the effort to use
>> it.
>>
>> What systems have worked? Have you found evidence of someone attempting
>> to steal your bike, but were defeated? What was your system?
>>
>> Just wonderin’
>> mike lucero
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> --
> Beth
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Dave Iltis via Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com>
> To: Beth Olsen <ejodakini at gmail.com>
> Cc: Bike-Racers <bike-racers at swcp.com>
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 14:00:50 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NMCycling] Bike theft questions
> We have posted a bunch of good resources here:
> Recover your bike:
>
> http://www.cyclingutah.com/tech/uh-oh-whered-my-bike-go-guide-to-recovering-your-stolen-bike/
>
> and
>
> Tips:
> http://www.cyclingutah.com/bike-theft/bike-theft-prevention/
> http://www.cyclingutah.com/bike-theft/
>
> Report a stolen bike to us and Bike Index:
> http://www.cyclingutah.com/bike-theft/report-a-stolen-bike/
>
>
> Thanks,
> Dave Iltis
> Cycling West
>
> On Mar 6, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Beth Olsen via Bike-racers <
> bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
> Just keep the bike in your car, store it in your bedroom and pack a gun
> under your pillow.
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 9:12 AM mike via Bike-racers <
> bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
>> In the interest of conversation, I’ve been wondering about keeping my
>> bikes from getting stolen by learning from other’s tragedies.
>>
>> It seems like mostly the stolen bikes have had a cable cut.
>>
>> How many have lost a bike that’s had a chain or U-lock cut/broken?
>>
>> I’ve heard of lots of the bikes taken off of racks. I’m assuming these
>> are racks that hold bikes with both wheels attached. How many bikes have
>> been stolen where the bikes are attached with a fork mount (with the front
>> wheel removed)?
>>
>> My theory is that it’s easy to just ride a bike away, but the extra time
>> it takes to defeat the lock AND  remove the fork from a rack makes my bike
>> a less attractive target. Especially if there’s no front wheel to ride away
>> on. It is a couple extra steps to secure the bike, however, for me it’s
>> worth it. Yes, they can steal the bike with no front wheel, but it’s not as
>> attractive as an entire bike.
>> It depends on how much your bike or bling on your bike is worth.
>>
>> I wonder about bikes stolen from garages. Are both wheels on the bike in
>> the garage?
>> Even in the garage, I take the front wheel off. If I’m gone for any
>> length of time I lock my bikes with a chain. Although inside the garage a
>> thief has much more time to defeat my security.
>>
>> The bottom line is that anything can be stolen. The trick is to make my
>> stuff not worth the extra effort. Thieves are looking for an easy target.
>> My task is to balance the effort to secure my stuff with the effort to use
>> it.
>>
>> What systems have worked? Have you found evidence of someone attempting
>> to steal your bike, but were defeated? What was your system?
>>
>> Just wonderin’
>> mike lucero
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bike-racers mailing list
>> Bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com
>> https://mailman.swcp.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bike-racers
>>
> --
> Beth
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>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Rich Walters via Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com>
> To: Dave Iltis <dave at cyclingutah.com>
> Cc: Bike Racers <bike-racers at swcp.com>
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 15:12:12 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NMCycling] Bike theft questions
> Beth has one of the best ideas, it's working so far. Ha..
>
> But for the garage locking question..
>
> I went to Lowe's and got some fat hooks, (just as fat as the u-bolt
> locks)  screw them into the stud.  If you do 2 real close they can't easily
> unscrew them with a big lock going through, Then run 2 thick cables and 1
> chain lock..  It's a real pain in the arse, but has to be done.
>
> Rich Walters
> Realty One NM
> 505-269-3053 <(505)%20269-3053>
>
>
> On Mar 6, 2018 2:02 PM, "Dave Iltis via Bike-racers" <
> bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
>> We have posted a bunch of good resources here:
>> Recover your bike:
>>
>> http://www.cyclingutah.com/tech/uh-oh-whered-my-bike-go-guide-to-recovering-your-stolen-bike/
>>
>> and
>>
>> Tips:
>> http://www.cyclingutah.com/bike-theft/bike-theft-prevention/
>> http://www.cyclingutah.com/bike-theft/
>>
>> Report a stolen bike to us and Bike Index:
>> http://www.cyclingutah.com/bike-theft/report-a-stolen-bike/
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dave Iltis
>> Cycling West
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Beth Olsen via Bike-racers <
>> bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>>
>> Just keep the bike in your car, store it in your bedroom and pack a gun
>> under your pillow.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 9:12 AM mike via Bike-racers <
>> bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In the interest of conversation, I’ve been wondering about keeping my
>>> bikes from getting stolen by learning from other’s tragedies.
>>>
>>> It seems like mostly the stolen bikes have had a cable cut.
>>>
>>> How many have lost a bike that’s had a chain or U-lock cut/broken?
>>>
>>> I’ve heard of lots of the bikes taken off of racks. I’m assuming these
>>> are racks that hold bikes with both wheels attached. How many bikes have
>>> been stolen where the bikes are attached with a fork mount (with the front
>>> wheel removed)?
>>>
>>> My theory is that it’s easy to just ride a bike away, but the extra time
>>> it takes to defeat the lock AND  remove the fork from a rack makes my bike
>>> a less attractive target. Especially if there’s no front wheel to ride away
>>> on. It is a couple extra steps to secure the bike, however, for me it’s
>>> worth it. Yes, they can steal the bike with no front wheel, but it’s not as
>>> attractive as an entire bike.
>>> It depends on how much your bike or bling on your bike is worth.
>>>
>>> I wonder about bikes stolen from garages. Are both wheels on the bike in
>>> the garage?
>>> Even in the garage, I take the front wheel off. If I’m gone for any
>>> length of time I lock my bikes with a chain. Although inside the garage a
>>> thief has much more time to defeat my security.
>>>
>>> The bottom line is that anything can be stolen. The trick is to make my
>>> stuff not worth the extra effort. Thieves are looking for an easy target.
>>> My task is to balance the effort to secure my stuff with the effort to use
>>> it.
>>>
>>> What systems have worked? Have you found evidence of someone attempting
>>> to steal your bike, but were defeated? What was your system?
>>>
>>> Just wonderin’
>>> mike lucero
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Bike-racers mailing list
>>> Bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com
>>> https://mailman.swcp.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bike-racers
>>>
>> --

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