[NMCycling] [bikeabq] Re: Fwd: HB 192 (5-Feet To Pass Bicycles) Final Vote Help

Sat Mar 16 13:14:40 MDT 2019

Scot,

Were you around when the Sheriff's Department was pulling over cyclists on
Tramway for using the road instead of the path?  How about when they banned
cyclists from 4th Street and Tramway by signage?  Any of the multiple times
when the Reaper was pulled over by deputies based on their interpretation
of the law?

We don't need to guess what the result of this law will be.  We have past
experience.  Any excuse to pull over cyclists who are deemed "in the way"
can and will be used.  The result inevitably will be more official and
unofficial harassment, tickets, time and money fighting them, and probably
a decrease in the number of people riding as a result of that harassment.

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 11:13 AM Scot Key <jscotkey at gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't think the Governor should veto the bill. I, too, ride "the road"
> on Tramway and would never use the multi-use path, but for a number of
> reasons I think the Governor should sign the bill and work instead move
> forward on a general and specific front. Generally, until the State/NMDOT
> has a solid Complete Streets statute, with buy-in and implementation from
> NMDOT, measures like HB 192 are mere band-aids, if that. Specifically, as a
> State Road, Tramway needs to be re-thought as a, perhaps, unique case
> although similar to non-State Roads such as Unser Blvd. that have both bike
> lanes and multi-use paths.
>
> In other words, the shoulder on Tramway (and short stretches of NM-500 Rio
> Bravo/Dennis Chavez with both shoulder and multi-use path) needs to be
> designated as a bike lane, including signs/striping for re-entry into the
> driving lanes at intersections. This latter aspect should have happened
> years ago, of course.
>
> Sensing my thoughts on this are not shared by the cycling community any
> more than drivers often wish to "share the road" with cyclists...but am
> still passing them along here and to the Governor.
>
> Thanks for listening...
>
> Scot Key
> ABQ, NM
> Better Burque
> jscotkey at gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 10:04 AM Jennifer Buntz bikefunsafe at gmail.com
> [bikeabq] <bikeabq-noreply at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> All,
>> We can't know how the wording of the amendment WILL be interpreted, and
>> therein lies the problem, in my opinion anyway.  I used the link below to
>> contact the Governor, and sent the message you can read if you're interested
>> (see below).
>>
>> https://www.governor.state.nm.us/contact-the-governor/
>>
>> Happy riding everyone,
>>
>> Jennifer
>>
>> ________________________________________________________________
>>
>> Governor Lujan Grisham,
>>
>> Please consider vetoing HB192, the 5 fee to pass bicycles bill. The bill
>> was given a last minute amendment before it went to the Senate Floor, which
>> I believe transformed the bill from one that was positive for bicyclists
>> into one that could have very negative, if unintended, consequences for
>> cyclists.
>>
>> The amendment puts cyclists right to use roadways into an ill defined
>> space that is not where the State should go with regard to supporting
>> alternative forms of transportation.  The amendment states that "To the
>> extent practicable, a person shall not operate a bicycle within a vehicle
>> lane if a separate posted or painted bicycle lane or pathway is provided
>> within or adjacent to the roadway."  It is the use of the word
>> "practicable" and its ambiguity that is objectionable to cyclists who
>> routinely use roadways.
>>
>> Take the example of Tramway Boulevard in Albuquerque.  The
>> north-south portion of Tramway Boulevard has a path adjacent to the
>> roadway, the Tramway Recreation Trail.   While this is a fine path, it
>> is not a path dedicated to the use of bicycles.  Many different users can
>> be found enjoying the Tramway Recreation Trail..  Due to the variety of
>> users, many cyclists, myself included, prefer to ride on the shoulder of
>> Tramway Boulevard.  This choice allows groups of cyclists to ride together,
>> and more importantly, avoids conflict with the walkers, runners, children,
>> dogs, rollerbladers, and slower cyclists who choose the Tramway Recreation
>> Trail.  Riding the shoulder makes this route much more expedient if you are
>> a bicycle commuter too.  The amendment to HB192 puts this *choice* in
>> jeopardy, taking it out of the hands of cyclists and leaving it up to the
>> discretion of law enforcement and judges.  It is also likely to add to
>> motorist/cyclist conflict.
>>
>> I was very disappointed that Senator Wirth and Representative Rubio
>> allowed the bill to advance to the Senate Floor with this amendment.
>> Please do not let this bill become law.  The benefit of the 5 feet to pass
>> component is not worth the difficulties that the amendment creates.
>> Cyclists already face many barriers.  I urge you to veto this bill so that
>> another barrier is not added.
>>
>> I had the pleasure of meeting you twice when you were our US
>> Representative.  I traveled to Washington D. C. during the League of
>> American Bicyclists annual Washington lobbying week.  It was great to meet
>> you and I appreciated your support for transportation bills that supported
>> cycling.  I am also one of the people from Duke City Wheelmen who places
>> ghost bikes for cyclists who die while cycling.
>>
>> My objection to this amendment comes from years of advocacy work for
>> safer cycling.  I would welcome the opportunity to speak with someone in
>> your office about this matter, and to delve deeper into how New Mexico can
>> be made a better place for cyclists as well as other forms of alternative
>> transportation.  Cycling in New Mexico really should be supported as a form
>> of recreation and as a health promoting activity too.
>>
>> Although this HB192 might look good at first glance, I do not believe it
>> supports or promotes safer conditions for bicyclists in New Mexico.  Thank
>> you for considering this opinion.  Please contact me if you have any
>> questions.
>>
>> With highest regards,
>> Jennifer Buntz
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 9:06 AM Neil McCasland via Bike-racers <
>> bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Right!   Very bad implications
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 16, 2019, at 7:41 AM, John Vance <adogapanicinapagoda at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> And now if they hit you, you'll be presumed at fault because you by law
>>> shouldn't have been on that road.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 8:35 AM Neil McCasland <neilmcc79 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I fear strengthening bad, aggressive, behavior by some drivers if they
>>>> believe now a law says a cyclist shouldn’t be on “their” road
>>>>
>>>> Neil McC
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> > On Mar 16, 2019, at 7:23 AM, dogunter <dogunter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > The amended bill has already passed the house and will be sent along
>>>> to the governor for signing. The discussion is moot at this point.
>>>> > David Gunter
>>>> > Santa Fe, NM
>>>> >
>>>>
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