[NMCycling] Fwd: [bikeabq] Re: Fwd: HB 192 (5-Feet To Pass Bicycles) Final Vote Help

Sat Mar 16 13:49:11 MDT 2019

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From: Jennifer Buntz bikefunsafe at gmail.com [bikeabq] <
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Date: Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [bikeabq] Re: [NMCycling] Fwd: HB 192 (5-Feet To Pass
Bicycles) Final Vote Help
To: Khalil Spencer <khalil at losalamos.com>
Cc: Scot Key <jscotkey at gmail.com>, Bill Nesper <BILL at bikeleague.org>, Peter
Wirth <peter.wirth at nmlegis.gov>, Neil McCasland <neilmcc79 at gmail.com>, John
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A quick internet search revealed that Senator James White is retired Air
Force Colonel, lives in the 4 Hills area, and was appointed by Governor
Susana Martinez, Member, New Mexico State Senate, September 9, 2016.  Given
the proximity of several multi-use paths to streets he probably drives
frequently, both on and off base, I am highly suspicious of the motives
behind this amendment.

Jennifer

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 12:12 PM Khalil Spencer <khalil at losalamos.com>
wrote:

> The League and most bicycle advocacy orgs have taken a dim view of
> Mandatory Sidepath laws because they often force bicyclists into
> substandard or unsafe situations and in addition many cops can’t ever see a
> reason why it is practicable to be in the lane even if the alternative
> sucks
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 16, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Scot Key jscotkey at gmail.com [bikeabq] <
> bikeabq-noreply at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> [Attachment(s) <#m_7832450379118210268_m_8036246493842543148_TopText>
> from Scot Key included below]
>
> Here's Sen. White's handwritten amendment, including "to the extent
> practicable" with all its vagueness. I'm no huge fan of the amendment, more
> importantly, in my mind, in cases of bike lane debris and other factors
> that make taking the lane more "practicable." Still, I wouldn't veto the
> bill.
>
> Scot
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 11:35 AM Khalil Spencer <khalil at losalamos.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Does this transform 192 into a mandatory side path law? If so it should
>> be vetoed
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 16, 2019, at 11:13 AM, Scot Key jscotkey at gmail.com [bikeabq] <
>> bikeabq-noreply at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't think the Governor should veto the bill. I, too, ride "the road"
>> on Tramway and would never use the multi-use path, but for a number of
>> reasons I think the Governor should sign the bill and work instead move
>> forward on a general and specific front. Generally, until the State/NMDOT
>> has a solid Complete Streets statute, with buy-in and implementation from
>> NMDOT, measures like HB 192 are mere band-aids, if that. Specifically, as a
>> State Road, Tramway needs to be re-thought as a, perhaps, unique case
>> although similar to non-State Roads such as Unser Blvd. that have both bike
>> lanes and multi-use paths.
>>
>> In other words, the shoulder on Tramway (and short stretches of NM-500
>> Rio Bravo/Dennis Chavez with both shoulder and multi-use path) needs to be
>> designated as a bike lane, including signs/striping for re-entry into the
>> driving lanes at intersections. This latter aspect should have happened
>> years ago, of course.
>>
>> Sensing my thoughts on this are not shared by the cycling community any
>> more than drivers often wish to "share the road" with cyclists...but am
>> still passing them along here and to the Governor.
>>
>> Thanks for listening...
>>
>> Scot Key
>> ABQ, NM
>> Better Burque
>> jscotkey at gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 10:04 AM Jennifer Buntz bikefunsafe at gmail.com
>> [bikeabq] <bikeabq-noreply at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All,
>>> We can't know how the wording of the amendment WILL be interpreted, and
>>> therein lies the problem, in my opinion anyway.  I used the link below to
>>> contact the Governor, and sent the message you can read if you're interested
>>> (see below).
>>>
>>> https://www.governor.state.nm.us/contact-the-governor/
>>> <https://www..governor.state.nm.us/contact-the-governor/>
>>>
>>> Happy riding everyone,
>>>
>>> Jennifer
>>>
>>> ________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> Governor Lujan Grisham,
>>>
>>> Please consider vetoing HB192, the 5 fee to pass bicycles bill. The bill
>>> was given a last minute amendment before it went to the Senate Floor, which
>>> I believe transformed the bill from one that was positive for bicyclists
>>> into one that could have very negative, if unintended, consequences for
>>> cyclists.
>>>
>>> The amendment puts cyclists right to use roadways into an ill defined
>>> space that is not where the State should go with regard to supporting
>>> alternative forms of transportation.  The amendment states that "To the
>>> extent practicable, a person shall not operate a bicycle within a vehicle
>>> lane if a separate posted or painted bicycle lane or pathway is provided
>>> within or adjacent to the roadway."  It is the use of the word
>>> "practicable" and its ambiguity that is objectionable to cyclists who
>>> routinely use roadways.
>>>
>>> Take the example of Tramway Boulevard in Albuquerque.  The
>>> north-south portion of Tramway Boulevard has a path adjacent to the
>>> roadway, the Tramway Recreation Trail.   While this is a fine path, it
>>> is not a path dedicated to the use of bicycles.  Many different users can
>>> be found enjoying the Tramway Recreation Trail...  Due to the variety of
>>> users, many cyclists, myself included, prefer to ride on the shoulder of
>>> Tramway Boulevard.  This choice allows groups of cyclists to ride together,
>>> and more importantly, avoids conflict with the walkers, runners, children,
>>> dogs, rollerbladers, and slower cyclists who choose the Tramway Recreation
>>> Trail.  Riding the shoulder makes this route much more expedient if you are
>>> a bicycle commuter too.  The amendment to HB192 puts this *choice* in
>>> jeopardy, taking it out of the hands of cyclists and leaving it up to the
>>> discretion of law enforcement and judges.  It is also likely to add to
>>> motorist/cyclist conflict.
>>>
>>> I was very disappointed that Senator Wirth and Representative Rubio
>>> allowed the bill to advance to the Senate Floor with this amendment.
>>> Please do not let this bill become law.  The benefit of the 5 feet to pass
>>> component is not worth the difficulties that the amendment creates..
>>> Cyclists already face many barriers.  I urge you to veto this bill so that
>>> another barrier is not added.
>>>
>>> I had the pleasure of meeting you twice when you were our US
>>> Representative.  I traveled to Washington D. C. during the League of
>>> American Bicyclists annual Washington lobbying week.  It was great to meet
>>> you and I appreciated your support for transportation bills that supported
>>> cycling.  I am also one of the people from Duke City Wheelmen who places
>>> ghost bikes for cyclists who die while cycling.
>>>
>>> My objection to this amendment comes from years of advocacy work for
>>> safer cycling.  I would welcome the opportunity to speak with someone in
>>> your office about this matter, and to delve deeper into how New Mexico can
>>> be made a better place for cyclists as well as other forms of alternative
>>> transportation.  Cycling in New Mexico really should be supported as a form
>>> of recreation and as a health promoting activity too.
>>>
>>> Although this HB192 might look good at first glance, I do not believe it
>>> supports or promotes safer conditions for bicyclists in New Mexico.  Thank
>>> you for considering this opinion.  Please contact me if you have any
>>> questions.
>>>
>>> With highest regards,
>>> Jennifer Buntz
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 9:06 AM Neil McCasland via Bike-racers <
>>> bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com <bike-racers at mailman..swcp.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Right!   Very bad implications
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 16, 2019, at 7:41 AM, John Vance <adogapanicinapagoda at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And now if they hit you, you'll be presumed at fault because you by law
>>>> shouldn't have been on that road.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 8:35 AM Neil McCasland <neilmcc79 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I fear strengthening bad, aggressive, behavior by some drivers if they
>>>>> believe now a law says a cyclist shouldn’t be on “their” road
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil McC
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Mar 16, 2019, at 7:23 AM, dogunter <dogunter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The amended bill has already passed the house and will be sent along
>>>>> to the governor for signing. The discussion is moot at this point.
>>>>> > David Gunter
>>>>> > Santa Fe, NM
>>>>> >
>>>>>
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