[NMCycling] Fwd: [bikeabq] Re: Fwd: HB 192 (5-Feet To Pass Bicycles) Final Vote Help
David P via Bike-racers
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Sat Mar 16 14:48:07 MDT 2019
Best results will be to directly call John Bingaman at the Governor's
office. 1-505-476-2200 or his assistant Fran Lucero at the same
number... Hope you all have better luck than me with the stone-
walling regarding the velodrome and her office... DPorter
On 3/16/2019 1:49 PM, Jennifer Buntz via Bike-racers wrote:
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> From: *Jennifer Buntz bikefunsafe at gmail.com
> <mailto:bikefunsafe at gmail.com> [bikeabq]*
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> Date: Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 1:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [bikeabq] Re: [NMCycling] Fwd: HB 192 (5-Feet To Pass
> Bicycles) Final Vote Help
> To: Khalil Spencer <khalil at losalamos.com <mailto:khalil at losalamos.com>>
> Cc: Scot Key <jscotkey at gmail.com <mailto:jscotkey at gmail.com>>, Bill
> Nesper <BILL at bikeleague.org <mailto:BILL at bikeleague.org>>, Peter Wirth
> <peter.wirth at nmlegis.gov <mailto:peter.wirth at nmlegis.gov>>, Neil
> McCasland <neilmcc79 at gmail.com <mailto:neilmcc79 at gmail.com>>, John
> Vance <adogapanicinapagoda at gmail.com
> <mailto:adogapanicinapagoda at gmail.com>>, Bike Racers
> <bike-racers at swcp.com <mailto:bike-racers at swcp.com>>, cwgable
> <cwgable at post.harvard.edu <mailto:cwgable at post.harvard.edu>>, Bike
> Santa Fe <bikesantafe at gmail.com <mailto:bikesantafe at gmail.com>>,
> BikeABQ BikeABQ <bikeabq at yahoogroups.com
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> A quick internet search revealed that Senator James White is retired
> Air Force Colonel, lives in the 4 Hills area, and was appointed by
> Governor Susana Martinez, Member, New Mexico State Senate, September
> 9, 2016. Given the proximity of several multi-use paths to streets he
> probably drives frequently, both on and off base, I am highly
> suspicious of the motives behind this amendment.
>
> Jennifer
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> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 12:12 PM Khalil Spencer <khalil at losalamos.com
> <mailto:khalil at losalamos.com>> wrote:
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> The League and most bicycle advocacy orgs have taken a dim view of
> Mandatory Sidepath laws because they often force bicyclists into
> substandard or unsafe situations and in addition many cops can’t
> ever see a reason why it is practicable to be in the lane even if
> the alternative sucks
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Mar 16, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Scot Key jscotkey at gmail.com
> <mailto:jscotkey at gmail.com> [bikeabq]
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> <mailto:bikeabq-noreply at yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
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>> [Attachment(s)
>> <#m_7832450379118210268_m_8036246493842543148_TopText> from Scot
>> Key included below]
>> Here's Sen. White's handwritten amendment, including "to the
>> extent practicable" with all its vagueness. I'm no huge fan of
>> the amendment, more importantly, in my mind, in cases of bike
>> lane debris and other factors that make taking the lane more
>> "practicable." Still, I wouldn't veto the bill.
>>
>> Scot
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>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 11:35 AM Khalil Spencer
>> <khalil at losalamos.com <mailto:khalil at losalamos.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Does this transform 192 into a mandatory side path law? If so
>> it should be vetoed
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 16, 2019, at 11:13 AM, Scot Key jscotkey at gmail.com
>> <mailto:jscotkey at gmail.com> [bikeabq]
>> <bikeabq-noreply at yahoogroups.com
>> <mailto:bikeabq-noreply at yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
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>>> I don't think the Governor should veto the bill. I, too,
>>> ride "the road" on Tramway and would never use the multi-use
>>> path, but for a number of reasons I think the Governor
>>> should sign the bill and work instead move forward on a
>>> general and specific front. Generally, until the State/NMDOT
>>> has a solid Complete Streets statute, with buy-in and
>>> implementation from NMDOT, measures like HB 192 are mere
>>> band-aids, if that. Specifically, as a State Road, Tramway
>>> needs to be re-thought as a, perhaps, unique case although
>>> similar to non-State Roads such as Unser Blvd. that have
>>> both bike lanes and multi-use paths.
>>>
>>> In other words, the shoulder on Tramway (and short stretches
>>> of NM-500 Rio Bravo/Dennis Chavez with both shoulder and
>>> multi-use path) needs to be designated as a bike lane,
>>> including signs/striping for re-entry into the driving lanes
>>> at intersections. This latter aspect should have happened
>>> years ago, of course.
>>>
>>> Sensing my thoughts on this are not shared by the cycling
>>> community any more than drivers often wish to "share the
>>> road" with cyclists...but am still passing them along here
>>> and to the Governor.
>>>
>>> Thanks for listening...
>>>
>>> Scot Key
>>> ABQ, NM
>>> Better Burque
>>> jscotkey at gmail.com <mailto:jscotkey at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 10:04 AM Jennifer Buntz
>>> bikefunsafe at gmail.com <mailto:bikefunsafe at gmail.com>
>>> [bikeabq] <bikeabq-noreply at yahoogroups.com
>>> <mailto:bikeabq-noreply at yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> All,
>>> We can't know how the wording of the amendment WILL be
>>> interpreted, and therein lies the problem, in my opinion
>>> anyway. I used the link below to contact the Governor,
>>> and sent the message you can read if you're
>>> interested(see below).
>>>
>>> https://www.governor.state.nm.us/contact-the-governor/
>>> <https://www..governor.state.nm.us/contact-the-governor/>
>>>
>>> Happy riding everyone,
>>>
>>> Jennifer
>>>
>>> ________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> Governor Lujan Grisham,
>>>
>>> Please consider vetoing HB192, the 5 fee to pass
>>> bicycles bill. The bill was given a last minute
>>> amendment before it went to the Senate Floor, which I
>>> believe transformed the bill from one that was positive
>>> for bicyclists into one that could have very negative,
>>> if unintended, consequences for cyclists.
>>> The amendment puts cyclists right to use roadways
>>> into an ill defined space that is not where the State
>>> should go with regard to supporting alternative forms of
>>> transportation. The amendment states that "To the extent
>>> practicable, a person shall not operate a bicycle within
>>> a vehicle lane if a separate posted or painted bicycle
>>> lane or pathway is provided within or adjacent to the
>>> roadway." It is the use of the word "practicable" and
>>> its ambiguity that is objectionable to cyclists who
>>> routinely use roadways.
>>>
>>> Take the example of Tramway Boulevard in Albuquerque.
>>> The north-south portion of Tramway Boulevard has a path
>>> adjacent to the roadway, the Tramway Recreation Trail.
>>> While this is a fine path, it is not a path dedicated
>>> to the use of bicycles. Many different users can be
>>> found enjoying the Tramway Recreation Trail... Due to
>>> the variety of users, many cyclists, myself included,
>>> prefer to ride on the shoulder of Tramway Boulevard.
>>> This choice allows groups of cyclists to ride together,
>>> and more importantly, avoids conflict with the walkers,
>>> runners, children, dogs, rollerbladers, and slower
>>> cyclists who choose the Tramway Recreation Trail.
>>> Riding the shoulder makes this route much more expedient
>>> if you are a bicycle commuter too. The amendment to
>>> HB192 puts this *choice* in jeopardy, taking it out of
>>> the hands of cyclists and leaving it up to the
>>> discretion of law enforcement and judges. It is also
>>> likely to add to motorist/cyclist conflict.
>>>
>>> I was very disappointed that Senator Wirth and
>>> Representative Rubio allowed the bill to advance to the
>>> Senate Floor with this amendment. Please do not let this
>>> bill become law. The benefit of the 5 feet to pass
>>> component is not worth the difficulties that the
>>> amendment creates.. Cyclists already face many
>>> barriers. I urge you to veto this bill so that another
>>> barrier is not added.
>>>
>>> I had the pleasure of meeting you twice when you were
>>> our US Representative. I traveled to Washington D. C.
>>> during the League of American Bicyclists annual
>>> Washington lobbying week. It was great to meet you and I
>>> appreciated your support for transportation bills that
>>> supported cycling. I am also one of the people from
>>> Duke City Wheelmen who places ghost bikes for cyclists
>>> who die while cycling.
>>>
>>> My objection to this amendment comes from years of
>>> advocacy work for safer cycling. I would welcome the
>>> opportunity to speak with someone in your office about
>>> this matter, and to delve deeper into how New Mexico can
>>> be made a better place for cyclists as well as other
>>> forms of alternative transportation. Cycling in New
>>> Mexico really should be supported as a form of
>>> recreation and as a health promoting activity too.
>>>
>>> Although this HB192 might look good at first glance, I
>>> do not believe it supports or promotes safer conditions
>>> for bicyclists in New Mexico. Thank you for considering
>>> this opinion. Please contact me if you have any questions.
>>>
>>> With highest regards,
>>> Jennifer Buntz
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 9:06 AM Neil McCasland via
>>> Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com
>>> <mailto:bike-racers at mailman..swcp.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Right! Very bad implications
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 16, 2019, at 7:41 AM, John Vance
>>> <adogapanicinapagoda at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:adogapanicinapagoda at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And now if they hit you, you'll be presumed at
>>>> fault because you by law shouldn't have been on
>>>> that road.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 8:35 AM Neil McCasland
>>>> <neilmcc79 at gmail.com <mailto:neilmcc79 at gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I fear strengthening bad, aggressive, behavior
>>>> by some drivers if they believe now a law says
>>>> a cyclist shouldn’t be on “their” road
>>>>
>>>> Neil McC
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> > On Mar 16, 2019, at 7:23 AM, dogunter
>>>> <dogunter at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:dogunter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > The amended bill has already passed the house
>>>> and will be sent along to the governor for
>>>> signing. The discussion is moot at this point.
>>>> > David Gunter
>>>> > Santa Fe, NM
>>>> >
>>>>
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