[NMCycling] do send letters to Grisham

Wed Jul 15 08:57:29 MDT 2020

All:
    I took an informal pool today during my morning ride and the results
were 10 out of 31 people that I saw today were using a mask when
exercising.  It also included the 2 groups of cyclist , 2 riders each,
riding side by side without a mask.  Did not see any runners, but a couple
dog walkers, walking their dogs by themselves that were not wearing a mask
either.
    This is merely 30% compliance..

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 08:39 Patrick R via Bike-racers <
bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:

> “Manage your own health” is not the fucking takeaway here.
>
> The United States has failed exactly because everyone is doing whatever
> they want and they are doing that in large part because our federal
> executive branch of government has actively subverted anyone who has
> attempted to apply any logic or reason to our response.
>
> As New Mexicans we are privileged to have a governor that has at least
> attempted to coordinate a coherent response to a deadly pandemic so how
> about we follow the rules at least until we’re all dead? Jesus fucking
> Christ people.
>
> sincerely,
>
> -Patrick
>
> -------------------------------------
> "Typef on a tiny keybpard."
>
> On Jul 15, 2020, at 7:10 AM, David P via Bike-racers <
> bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> According to all sources and despite all the measures people have
> undertaken nothing we do has helped and again according to the sources
> cases have increased exponentially. Conclusion, manage your own health.
> On 7/14/2020 5:20 PM, Geoff via Bike-racers wrote:
>
> To my community,
>
> The following information is currently on the New Mexico Department of
> Health webpage titled "COVID Safe Practices for all New Mexicans"
>
>  https://cv.nmhealth.org/covid-safe-practices/
>
> "If You Must Go Out:
>
>
>    - Individuals are required to wear a face covering or mask in public
>       spaces except when eating, drinking or exercising, or unless otherwise
>       advised by a health care provider.
>       - Maintain a 6-foot distance from others.
>       - Avoid gatherings.
>       - Protect vulnerable populations by finding ways to connect without
>       face-to-face contact.”
>
> Does anyone know if this information is intended to clarify the Gov's new
> mandate is old information?
>
> Be well and let’s do what is supported by science and benefits for the
> "Common Good."
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Geoff Mather
>
>
>
> On Jul 12, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Nathan Masek via Bike-racers <
> bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
> Continuing the thread, here’s a report from a test ride I did this morning
> -
>
> I did a bit of climbing today, with mask on for testing. Although today
> probably wasn’t the best day to test face coverings under physical strain
> (halfway up my Garmin lit up with a Heat Warning), but I hVe to say that
> under the circumstances, it was manageable. There were times, specifically
> on the climb  that I found myself dropping the mask to my chin as long as
> no others were around. At those times I’d also get a drink.  I found this
> particular type of mask worked best, although after a bit it softened up
> and would flex into my mouth on the inhale - I might fashion something to
> keep it from doing that.
>
> I’d say that under the circumstances, not ideal of course, but
> manageable.  The sooner this is through the better!
>
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>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 12, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Robert L. Browning II via Bike-racers <
> bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
> Done.
>
> RE: Proposed health order.
>
> The proposed public health order to require masks covering the nose and
> mouth outside without exception is ineffectual and contrary to public
> health
> guidance.  To reduce the spread of COVID-19, CDC recommends that people
> wear
> cloth face coverings in public settings when around people outside of their
> household, especially when other social distancing measures are difficult
> to
> maintain.
>
> The most effective methods to limit disease infection remain, in order:
>
> 1) Wash your hands thoroughly
> 2) Maintain physical distancing
> 3) Clean and disinfect regularly touched surfaces
>
> Wearing a mask in situations where physical distancing cannot be maintained
> does nothing for the mask wearer, but only mitigates coronavirus infection
> if the mask wearer is a carrier, which is highly unlikely given disease
> prevalence.  There is also the problem with what passes for masks lately
> are
> fabrics of varying filtration ability, from medical masks that are not in
> the hands of health care providers, to sheer fabrics that provide the
> appearance of a face covering but none of the anticipated benefits.  A
> quick
> internet search shows "masks" that have visible openings, particulate and
> dust filters, and of such a sheer nature they appear to be made of the same
> material as panty hose.  While these products would be technically in
> compliance with the public health order, they would not protect the wearer
> nor others from whatever comes of the act of exhalation.
>
> The mask wearing proposal that would remove all exemptions to wearing a
> mask, essentially requiring mask usage all the time a person is outside,
> results in absurd situations which could embarrass the State and its
> government were the proposed health order enforced as written.  For one, a
> swimmer doing laps in a pool is in violation of the proposed health order,
> and would likely publicize any attempt by law enforcement to sanction the
> activity of swimming without a mask.  Similarly, an unmasked runner or
> cyclist on a lonely stretch of New Mexico highway would be correct in
> noting
> there is no human around for considerable distance (miles even) save for
> the
> law enforcement officer citing the runner/cyclist.
>
> Finally, there is the risk the public will not accept the removal of prior
> exceptions to the outdoor mandatory mask requirement.  Large swaths of the
> public in defiance of a public health order further erodes the credibility
> of government to manage the pandemic response to the point the government
> is
> required to reverse course (again) to regain consent of the governed.  See
> Prohibition and its subsequent repeal as a historical example, as well as
> societal pressure to decriminalize marijuana use and legalize gay marriage.
>
> The prudent course of action remains to encourage New Mexicans, to a
> person,
> practice diligent hand hygiene, regularly clean high touch surfaces, and
> maintain physical distancing to manage the pandemic.
>
> Robert L. Browning II
> browning5800 at comcast.net
>
>
>
> On 07/10/2020 2:25 PM Heidi Snell via Bike-racers
>
> <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
>
> Fellow cyclists:
>
> I think MLGrisham needs to hear from many cyclists as to why there
> needs to be an exception the mask rule. The letter can be short and
> easy, simply asking to not wearing a mask when cycling while also
> keeping a good social distance.  Others of you have already written
> good reasons and those can be incorporated into a letter. I don't
> think she needs a huge list of reasons, but she does need to hear from
> enough people to make time to make a change in the ruling.
>
> My thoughts are with the mask law and a fine involved, it seems to me
> the cyclist/police interactions could just get worse. Police could
> easily pull a cyclist over as an easy target. Without an exception to
> the mask ruling, a ticket could be a plausible result.
>
> A letter is easy and she just needs to hear from the New Mexicans she
> is trying to protect.  I expect she is willing to make a change with
> proper input.
>
> I certainly would not want to be in her shoes with the massive
> pressure she has trying to keep as many people safe as she can while
> maintaining a functioning state.
>
> cheers,
> heidi
>
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