[NMCycling] do send letters to Grisham

Wed Jul 15 09:46:55 MDT 2020

Thanks “Karn”

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From: Bike-raceTrs <bike-racers-bounces at mailman.swcp.com> On Behalf Of Silvio Menezes via Bike-racers
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 8:57 AM
To: roddy.patrick at yahoo.com
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Subject: Re: [NMCycling] do send letters to Grisham

All:

    I took an informal pool today during my morning ride and the results were 10 out of 31 people that I saw today were using a mask when exercising.  It also included the 2 groups of cyclist , 2 riders each, riding side by side without a mask.  Did not see any runners, but a couple dog walkers, walking their dogs by themselves that were not wearing a mask either. 

    This is merely 30% compliance..  

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 08:39 Patrick R via Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com <mailto:bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> > wrote:

“Manage your own health” is not the fucking takeaway here. 

The United States has failed exactly because everyone is doing whatever they want and they are doing that in large part because our federal executive branch of government has actively subverted anyone who has attempted to apply any logic or reason to our response. 

As New Mexicans we are privileged to have a governor that has at least attempted to coordinate a coherent response to a deadly pandemic so how about we follow the rules at least until we’re all dead? Jesus fucking Christ people. 

sincerely,

-Patrick 

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On Jul 15, 2020, at 7:10 AM, David P via Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com <mailto:bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> > wrote:

According to all sources and despite all the measures people have undertaken nothing we do has helped and again according to the sources cases have increased exponentially. Conclusion, manage your own health.

On 7/14/2020 5:20 PM, Geoff via Bike-racers wrote:

To my community,  

The following information is currently on the New Mexico Department of Health webpage titled "COVID Safe Practices for all New Mexicans" 

 https://cv.nmhealth.org/covid-safe-practices/ 

"If You Must Go Out:

o    Individuals are required to wear a face covering or mask in public spaces except when eating, drinking or exercising, or unless otherwise advised by a health care provider.

o    Maintain a 6-foot distance from others.

o    Avoid gatherings.

o    Protect vulnerable populations by finding ways to connect without face-to-face contact.” 

Does anyone know if this information is intended to clarify the Gov's new mandate is old information?   

Be well and let’s do what is supported by science and benefits for the "Common Good."

Respectfully, 

Geoff Mather

On Jul 12, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Nathan Masek via Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com <mailto:bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> > wrote:

Hey guys,
Continuing the thread, here’s a report from a test ride I did this morning - 

I did a bit of climbing today, with mask on for testing. Although today probably wasn’t the best day to test face coverings under physical strain (halfway up my Garmin lit up with a Heat Warning), but I hVe to say that under the circumstances, it was manageable. There were times, specifically on the climb  that I found myself dropping the mask to my chin as long as no others were around. At those times I’d also get a drink.  I found this particular type of mask worked best, although after a bit it softened up and would flex into my mouth on the inhale - I might fashion something to keep it from doing that. 

I’d say that under the circumstances, not ideal of course, but manageable.  The sooner this is through the better! 

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On Jul 12, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Robert L. Browning II via Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com <mailto:bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> > wrote:

Done.

RE: Proposed health order.

The proposed public health order to require masks covering the nose and
mouth outside without exception is ineffectual and contrary to public health
guidance.  To reduce the spread of COVID-19, CDC recommends that people wear
cloth face coverings in public settings when around people outside of their
household, especially when other social distancing measures are difficult to
maintain.  

The most effective methods to limit disease infection remain, in order: 

1) Wash your hands thoroughly
2) Maintain physical distancing
3) Clean and disinfect regularly touched surfaces

Wearing a mask in situations where physical distancing cannot be maintained
does nothing for the mask wearer, but only mitigates coronavirus infection
if the mask wearer is a carrier, which is highly unlikely given disease
prevalence.  There is also the problem with what passes for masks lately are
fabrics of varying filtration ability, from medical masks that are not in
the hands of health care providers, to sheer fabrics that provide the
appearance of a face covering but none of the anticipated benefits.  A quick
internet search shows "masks" that have visible openings, particulate and
dust filters, and of such a sheer nature they appear to be made of the same
material as panty hose.  While these products would be technically in
compliance with the public health order, they would not protect the wearer
nor others from whatever comes of the act of exhalation.

The mask wearing proposal that would remove all exemptions to wearing a
mask, essentially requiring mask usage all the time a person is outside,
results in absurd situations which could embarrass the State and its
government were the proposed health order enforced as written.  For one, a
swimmer doing laps in a pool is in violation of the proposed health order,
and would likely publicize any attempt by law enforcement to sanction the
activity of swimming without a mask.  Similarly, an unmasked runner or
cyclist on a lonely stretch of New Mexico highway would be correct in noting
there is no human around for considerable distance (miles even) save for the
law enforcement officer citing the runner/cyclist.  

Finally, there is the risk the public will not accept the removal of prior
exceptions to the outdoor mandatory mask requirement.  Large swaths of the
public in defiance of a public health order further erodes the credibility
of government to manage the pandemic response to the point the government is
required to reverse course (again) to regain consent of the governed.  See
Prohibition and its subsequent repeal as a historical example, as well as
societal pressure to decriminalize marijuana use and legalize gay marriage.

The prudent course of action remains to encourage New Mexicans, to a person,
practice diligent hand hygiene, regularly clean high touch surfaces, and
maintain physical distancing to manage the pandemic.

Robert L. Browning II
browning5800 at comcast.net <mailto:browning5800 at comcast.net> 

On 07/10/2020 2:25 PM Heidi Snell via Bike-racers

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Fellow cyclists:

I think MLGrisham needs to hear from many cyclists as to why there 
needs to be an exception the mask rule. The letter can be short and 
easy, simply asking to not wearing a mask when cycling while also 
keeping a good social distance.  Others of you have already written 
good reasons and those can be incorporated into a letter. I don't 
think she needs a huge list of reasons, but she does need to hear from 
enough people to make time to make a change in the ruling.

My thoughts are with the mask law and a fine involved, it seems to me 
the cyclist/police interactions could just get worse. Police could
easily pull a cyclist over as an easy target. Without an exception to 
the mask ruling, a ticket could be a plausible result.

A letter is easy and she just needs to hear from the New Mexicans she 
is trying to protect.  I expect she is willing to make a change with 
proper input.

I certainly would not want to be in her shoes with the massive 
pressure she has trying to keep as many people safe as she can while 
maintaining a functioning state.

cheers,
heidi

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