[NMCycling] do send letters to Grisham
David P
frogeye at porterscustom.com
Wed Jul 15 09:59:27 MDT 2020
"Typef on a tiny keybpard." That does not give you the permission to
use that foul language when responding.. dp FWIW... KOB TV reports that
our gov. purchased nearly 3 million dollars (your tax money) on
counterfit Chinese dust masks... just saying.
On 7/15/2020 8:53 AM, Fritz Eberle wrote:
> And then there's this from the WHO
> <https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/myth-busters?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIlrW1r7yY6gIVionICh13dQ5LEAAYASAAEgJeoPD_BwE#exercising>
> (3 weeks ago)...
> image.png
>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 8:39 AM Patrick R via Bike-racers
> <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com <mailto:bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com>>
> wrote:
>
> “Manage your own health” is not the fucking takeaway here.
>
> The United States has failed exactly because everyone is doing
> whatever they want and they are doing that in large part because
> our federal executive branch of government has actively subverted
> anyone who has attempted to apply any logic or reason to our
> response.
>
> As New Mexicans we are privileged to have a governor that has at
> least attempted to coordinate a coherent response to a deadly
> pandemic so how about we follow the rules at least until we’re all
> dead? Jesus fucking Christ people.
>
> sincerely,
>
> -Patrick
>
> -------------------------------------
> "Typef on a tiny keybpard."
>
>> On Jul 15, 2020, at 7:10 AM, David P via Bike-racers
>> <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com
>> <mailto:bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> According to all sources and despite all the measures people have
>> undertaken nothing we do has helped and again according to the
>> sources cases have increased exponentially. Conclusion, manage
>> your own health.
>>
>> On 7/14/2020 5:20 PM, Geoff via Bike-racers wrote:
>>> To my community,
>>>
>>> The following information is currently on the New Mexico
>>> Department of Health webpage titled "COVID Safe Practices for
>>> all New Mexicans"
>>>
>>> https://cv.nmhealth.org/covid-safe-practices/
>>>
>>> "If You Must Go Out:
>>>
>>> o Individuals are required to wear a face covering or mask
>>> in public spaces except when eating, drinking or
>>> exercising, or unless otherwise advised by a health care
>>> provider.
>>> o Maintain a 6-foot distance from others.
>>> o Avoid gatherings.
>>> o Protect vulnerable populations by finding ways to
>>> connect without face-to-face contact.”
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if this information is intended to clarify
>>> the Gov's new mandate is old information?
>>>
>>> Be well and let’s do what is supported by science and benefits
>>> for the "Common Good."
>>>
>>> Respectfully,
>>>
>>> Geoff Mather
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jul 12, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Nathan Masek via Bike-racers
>>>> <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com
>>>> <mailto:bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey guys,
>>>> Continuing the thread, here’s a report from a test ride I did
>>>> this morning -
>>>>
>>>> I did a bit of climbing today, with mask on for testing.
>>>> Although today probably wasn’t the best day to test face
>>>> coverings under physical strain (halfway up my Garmin lit up
>>>> with a Heat Warning), but I hVe to say that under the
>>>> circumstances, it was manageable. There were times,
>>>> specifically on the climb that I found myself dropping the
>>>> mask to my chin as long as no others were around. At those
>>>> times I’d also get a drink. I found this particular type of
>>>> mask worked best, although after a bit it softened up and would
>>>> flex into my mouth on the inhale - I might fashion something to
>>>> keep it from doing that.
>>>>
>>>> I’d say that under the circumstances, not ideal of course, but
>>>> manageable. The sooner this is through the better!
>>>>
>>>> <image0.jpeg><image1.jpeg><image2.jpeg>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 12, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Robert L. Browning II via
>>>>> Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com
>>>>> <mailto:bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Done.
>>>>>
>>>>> RE: Proposed health order.
>>>>>
>>>>> The proposed public health order to require masks covering the
>>>>> nose and
>>>>> mouth outside without exception is ineffectual and contrary to
>>>>> public health
>>>>> guidance. To reduce the spread of COVID-19, CDC recommends
>>>>> that people wear
>>>>> cloth face coverings in public settings when around people
>>>>> outside of their
>>>>> household, especially when other social distancing measures
>>>>> are difficult to
>>>>> maintain.
>>>>>
>>>>> The most effective methods to limit disease infection remain,
>>>>> in order:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Wash your hands thoroughly
>>>>> 2) Maintain physical distancing
>>>>> 3) Clean and disinfect regularly touched surfaces
>>>>>
>>>>> Wearing a mask in situations where physical distancing cannot
>>>>> be maintained
>>>>> does nothing for the mask wearer, but only mitigates
>>>>> coronavirus infection
>>>>> if the mask wearer is a carrier, which is highly unlikely
>>>>> given disease
>>>>> prevalence. There is also the problem with what passes for
>>>>> masks lately are
>>>>> fabrics of varying filtration ability, from medical masks that
>>>>> are not in
>>>>> the hands of health care providers, to sheer fabrics that
>>>>> provide the
>>>>> appearance of a face covering but none of the anticipated
>>>>> benefits. A quick
>>>>> internet search shows "masks" that have visible openings,
>>>>> particulate and
>>>>> dust filters, and of such a sheer nature they appear to be
>>>>> made of the same
>>>>> material as panty hose. While these products would be
>>>>> technically in
>>>>> compliance with the public health order, they would not
>>>>> protect the wearer
>>>>> nor others from whatever comes of the act of exhalation.
>>>>>
>>>>> The mask wearing proposal that would remove all exemptions to
>>>>> wearing a
>>>>> mask, essentially requiring mask usage all the time a person
>>>>> is outside,
>>>>> results in absurd situations which could embarrass the State
>>>>> and its
>>>>> government were the proposed health order enforced as
>>>>> written. For one, a
>>>>> swimmer doing laps in a pool is in violation of the proposed
>>>>> health order,
>>>>> and would likely publicize any attempt by law enforcement to
>>>>> sanction the
>>>>> activity of swimming without a mask. Similarly, an unmasked
>>>>> runner or
>>>>> cyclist on a lonely stretch of New Mexico highway would be
>>>>> correct in noting
>>>>> there is no human around for considerable distance (miles
>>>>> even) save for the
>>>>> law enforcement officer citing the runner/cyclist.
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally, there is the risk the public will not accept the
>>>>> removal of prior
>>>>> exceptions to the outdoor mandatory mask requirement. Large
>>>>> swaths of the
>>>>> public in defiance of a public health order further erodes the
>>>>> credibility
>>>>> of government to manage the pandemic response to the point the
>>>>> government is
>>>>> required to reverse course (again) to regain consent of the
>>>>> governed. See
>>>>> Prohibition and its subsequent repeal as a historical example,
>>>>> as well as
>>>>> societal pressure to decriminalize marijuana use and legalize
>>>>> gay marriage.
>>>>>
>>>>> The prudent course of action remains to encourage New
>>>>> Mexicans, to a person,
>>>>> practice diligent hand hygiene, regularly clean high touch
>>>>> surfaces, and
>>>>> maintain physical distancing to manage the pandemic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert L. Browning II
>>>>> browning5800 at comcast.net <mailto:browning5800 at comcast.net>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 07/10/2020 2:25 PM Heidi Snell via Bike-racers
>>>>>> <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com>
>>>>>> <mailto:bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fellow cyclists:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think MLGrisham needs to hear from many cyclists as to why
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> needs to be an exception the mask rule. The letter can be
>>>>>> short and
>>>>>> easy, simply asking to not wearing a mask when cycling while
>>>>>> also
>>>>>> keeping a good social distance. Others of you have already
>>>>>> written
>>>>>> good reasons and those can be incorporated into a letter. I
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> think she needs a huge list of reasons, but she does need to
>>>>>> hear from
>>>>>> enough people to make time to make a change in the ruling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My thoughts are with the mask law and a fine involved, it
>>>>>> seems to me
>>>>>> the cyclist/police interactions could just get worse. Police
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> easily pull a cyclist over as an easy target. Without an
>>>>>> exception to
>>>>>> the mask ruling, a ticket could be a plausible result.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A letter is easy and she just needs to hear from the New
>>>>>> Mexicans she
>>>>>> is trying to protect. I expect she is willing to make a
>>>>>> change with
>>>>>> proper input.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I certainly would not want to be in her shoes with the massive
>>>>>> pressure she has trying to keep as many people safe as she
>>>>>> can while
>>>>>> maintaining a functioning state.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>> heidi
>>>>>>
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