[Neighbors] Christmas eve on Coal at Wellsely

Sat Dec 30 12:35:31 MST 2017

Hi all, 

What is "NIMBY'ers? 

Also, my two cents ~ 

I think the
problem goes far beyond the design of the streets - manners are not what
they used to be, people are overstimulated constantly as well as
pressured by "must do, must be" and we have a big cultural shift
occurring in which attitudes about others needs are severely altered. I
wonder sometimes if the world will just be different (not in ways I
particularly like) or if the current intensity and disruption of former
"ways" will prove to be unsustainable. 

Karen 

On Dec 29 2017 10:00
PM, Robert L Anderson via Neighbors_nobhill-nm wrote: 

> Juan, 
> 
>
That is an interesting article on the Nav Apps. Thanks for bringing it
to our attention. Our neighborhood is being destroyed by the traffic
problems that as you say are more than just Lead/Coal. It is system,
city wide and all over the country. I guess if we can't get any large
thinking going we have to fight as NIMBYs to save what little we have
left. It is clear to me the ones in charge during the last city
administration had some other ideas in mind than what is needed. I have
been here 15 years and see great harm coming from all the lack of
transportation planning and concern for neighborhoods like ours. I am
for check points or something ... 
> 
> Lately I have noticed more for
sale signs on homes on the corners and near-corners of Lead/Coal
streets. This fleeing is only going to benefit the real estate industry,
imo. What was once a pretty stable neighborhood is slowly being replaced
by rentals and in and out families. I suspect a corporation like
McDonald's will soon acquire a corner property on Lead/Coal and put in a
food outlet here-about. 
> 
> I find it ironic the city planners have
stopped many left turns off Central but do nothing about the cross
street traffic on Lead/Coal which has long been a big part of the
problem. 
> 
> I have experienced another aspect of the changing times
too. Several times now I have been early on the scene of some of the
auto crashes out side my house and nearby. In doing this I have been
threatened and seen some of the most selfish behavior in drivers who do
not stop to offer help or block traffic from going through crash sites.
I have had drivers coming up on the horrible scenes get out of their car
cursing people whose car has broken axels or wheels missing to move out
of the road way. I saw a man come up the other night and get out and
move the bumper of one of the disabled cars over to the side so he could
pass through with injured people all around. I was pushed around once by
several drivers as I tried to redirect traffic to turn left or right as
others were administering aid to the injured in the cars. One man got in
my face with clenched fists and cursed me as his wife drove to push me
out of the way with her car and later a commercial truck driver pushed
me with his big truck to get into and past the accident site. The
traffic is creating situations were drivers are becoming dangerous even
if they are not in the accident. Beware, it is not safe to come on one
of these sites and try to help. One time we had to call 911 to get help
from a driver threatening the driver of a broken crash car to move it
out of the street. What we are seeing is just not accidents from
in-proper planning but the emergence of people from out of the area who
have no sense of community or social responsibility. 
> 
> Bob 
> 
> On
Dec 28, 2017, at 10:10 AM, J. Smith via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
<neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote: 
> 
> Speaking of
neighborhood traffic ills, there's an interesting story in the Dec 24th
New York Times N.Y. / Region Section: Navigation Apps Are Turning Quiet
Neighborhoods Into Traffic Nightmares.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/24/nyregion/traffic-apps-gps-neighborhoods.html
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> 
> CABQ is not alone in failing to manage/account for traffic
patterns on a system-wide basis. What's new here is that the NIMBY'ers
are convincing towns and villages to actually block outside through
traffic. This could bring the problem cascading to many neighborhoods,
rather than address the root cause.
> 
> Juan
>
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