[Neighbors] Dying Trees

Wed Oct 11 08:55:11 MDT 2017

 Hi Nancy,
Newer neighborhoods typically have landscaping covenants to maintain and replace landscaping materials, plants and trees.  These covenants are organized to maintain front yards and right of ways around the neighborhood,  protect the neighborhood from deteriorating and property values from dropping. I don't know if organizing one for your neighborhood would work but worth looking into it.
Julio D.
    On Friday, June 20, 2014, 11:02:47 AM MDT, Elizabeth Chestnut via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:  

good idea, Greg -- the economic argumenthas enormous persuasive power,

thanks, Elizabeth

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A letter could be written, but I would try to be more convincing ratherthan "strongly worded". The NHNA doesn't have the power to compel aproperty owner to water their trees, and probably the city doesn't either. Iwould argue along the lines of increased property value and reduced coolingcosts in the summer (shading).

Greg

On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Smith, Nancy via Neighbors_nobhill-nm<neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com>wrote:

Thank you all Nob Hill friends concerning the dying trees 308 Montclaire Dr NE.  I appreciate your input.  So, we called 311 and that was a dead end,referred to again the bernco assessor, left a message, no response yet.
Faith and I had Erik's Tree Service over to check out our front yard sprucethat is stressed over the drought.  Joe, the arborist, says that the treeacross the street is a sycamore and is indeed dying as well as the other treesin that yard.  He also stated that our tree is suffering the drought eventhough we have taken costly measures to save our tree.  We will not giveup on our tree and will continue to try to mend it, whatever it takes.
What I know about the dying trees/owner across the street is that the prop isowned by Streamline Homes LLC, no phone #, just a PO box 91510 ,   Albuquerque ,87199.  Perhaps a strongly worded letter from NBNA could help?  Whatdo ya think?
Thanks,
N.

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On Jun 19, 2014, at 12:48 PM, "kbking" <kingkb at swcp.com<mailto:kingkb at swcp.com>> wrote:

Hi Jack,

Thanks for the note ~ I do want to clarify that it was I who suggested theburning (Sally just commented on the herbicides). Sorry if it seemed insulting,it wasn't meant to be. I've actually seen it used here in our neighborhood(super low flame right by the ground on short weeds) - seemed effective withappropriate use.

Please accept a little humor here: you could be smarter than anyone looks! Imight actually recognize about 2 people if I saw them ~ it's a different world:-)

Karen
On Jun 19, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Jack Hinton wrote:

Karen,  I agree with just about everything you said.  I like the ideaof a letter from the NHNA gently asking residents to take care of identifiedproblems.  I take pride in my grass and large mulberry trees, even thoughI'm allergic to them.

However, I don't think my neighbors or AFD would appreciate me lighting theirweeds on fire.  Sally should know all the facts before she hits the replyto all button.  I'm smarter than I look.

Jack

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On Jun 19, 2014, at 1:01 PM, kbking via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com<mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com>>wrote:

I love our neighborhood and how so many people care about the area! I've driventhrough more desolate parts of town and have felt immense gratitude to be herein Nob Hill, where I can walk down the street and enjoy the big trees andbeautiful yards ~~ and the work so many put in to developing their landscape,sometimes gradually over long periods.

I want to say in advance on this note that I'm "one of those people"who often sees potential problems. I hope these thoughts can be seen as useful.

If you water someone else's yard without their permission it might beproblematic - particularly if you are using their water supply. The propertyowner is paying for the water (whether directly, or indirectly through feespaid to a management corporation, yes?). I don't think we have a right, evencollectively, to tell (or through watering, "force") the owner tospend the additional money on this resource.

I do believe we have a right to require safety, and I would think that the citycan step in to help with that. Dead trees aren't safe. They break and fall onthings like houses and cars. That said, cutting the trees down then becomes anoption (not our favorite). ... and That said, I wonder if that wouldn't beexpensive enough to encourage the owner to just go ahead and water the trees.(If the tenants are supposed to be doing it, maybe an automatic drip systemcould be installed).

I can appreciate the thought that an owner who has handed management of aproperty over to a corporation doesn't care --- but why assume it? Maybe weneed to investigate what makes sense to care about: the trees, the expense ofcutting down the trees OR the drop in property value when the place is allowedto loose the trees (landscaping counts a bit).

I don't know how to go about it all, but I think it might be nice for the NHNAto help out with a letter, if that's possible. It can be pretty difficult foran individual (or small group of) to approach an owner -- and the person whostarted this chain has tried to talk to the management corporation and beendismissed. Maybe a letter regarding neighborhood quality .... and see where youcan bring in issues of safety (the city requires us to pull our weeds, thereought to be something in the rulebook about trees).

Well, thanks for the opportunity to share thoughts ~ (and Jack, please do takeSally's comments into true consideration - there are an increasing number ofadults as well whose health is adversely affected by herbicides and otherproducts. Maybe burn them.. the weeds :-)

Karen King

On Jun 19, 2014, at 9:53 AM, ronhalbgewachs via Neighbors_nobhill-nm wrote:

I would gather the renter doesn't care if the tree lives or dies.  Oftensuch renters simply decide it is "not their job" to water plants,lawns, or trees.  Since there is a management company involved, the ownerhas little interest in what happens to the property.  Owners, in this casevia the management company, pay the water bill since the city can place a lienon the property for unpaid water bills.

 Is there a way to get the word out that the management company is failingin their maintenance of the property?  Certainly contacting the owner is afirst step.  However, we have a property down the street and I havecontacted him about the maintenance of the property...bottom line...he simplydoesn't care!  A problem with 311 in cases such as this is that a warningmay be delivered to the property, but may never be seen by the managementcompany and certainly not by the owner.

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From: Gary & Melodie Eyster via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
Sent: Jun 19, 2014 9:14 AM

To: 'Beverly Hill' , "'Smith, Nancy'" , neighbors at nobhill-nm.com<mailto:neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
Subject: Re: [Neighbors] Dying Trees

 Nancy andFaith, Maybe the property owner would like for the tree to
live.you can find his address at bernco.gov.assessor

Maybe the resident would help.Gary

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Subject: Re: [Neighbors]Dying Trees

This is a difficult issue. The same thing happened next door to me. I
suggest calling 311 and asking to speak to the new city forester. The
position is filled now, and he would have the most accurate knowledge (I
would hope) about what can be done about this problem. Once you find out,
would you let me know what he says? I am concerned about it, too, and could
put something in the newsletter about how to handle the problem.

Good luck, and thanks for caring,

 Beverly

NHNA Newsletter Editor (for now)

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Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 3:48 PM

Subject: [Neighbors] Dying Trees

Nob Hill Association Albuquerque ,

As a proud property owner in Nob Hill, we ask if you have any suggestions on
how to deal with a rental property, handled by a management firm that will
not water their yard nor huge old trees ( 308 Montclaire Dr NE ). These poor
older trees have not been watered in over a year and are dying. My family
and I live across the street and am very concerned. We have spoken to the
management firm (HeroPM) and have been poo pooed. We have spoken to several
of our neighbors and they are equally concerned. Any ideas? Can NHNA help
us?

Thanks for your time.

Nancy A. Smith and Faith DeLong

 309 Montclaire Dr NE

505-265-9588

Nancy A. Smith | Geologist | Superintendent

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