[Neighbors] Dying Trees

Wed Oct 11 16:36:23 MDT 2017

Covenants are contractual agreements entered into by members of a
homeowners association. Neighborhood Associations require no covenants.
You may have the two completely different kinds of orgnizations confused
with each other.

Charlie

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Julio Dominguez via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <
neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:

> Hi Nancy,
>
> Newer neighborhoods typically have landscaping covenants to maintain and
> replace landscaping materials, plants and trees.  These covenants are
> organized to maintain front yards and right of ways around the
> neighborhood,  protect the neighborhood from deteriorating and property
> values from dropping. I don't know if organizing one for your neighborhood
> would work but worth looking into it.
>
> Julio D.
>
> On Friday, June 20, 2014, 11:02:47 AM MDT, Elizabeth Chestnut via
> Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
>
> good idea, Greg -- the economic argument has enormous persuasive power,
>
> thanks, Elizabeth
>
>
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> *From:* Neighbors_nobhill-nm [mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm-
> bounces at mailman.swcp.com] *On Behalf Of *Greg Weirs via
> Neighbors_nobhill-nm
> *Sent:* Friday, June 20, 2014 9:16 AM
> *To:* neighbors at nobhill-nm.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Neighbors] Dying Trees
>
>
>
>
>
> A letter could be written, but I would try to be more convincing rather
> than "strongly worded". The NHNA doesn't have the power to compel a
> property owner to water their trees, and probably the city doesn't either.
> I would argue along the lines of increased property value and reduced
> cooling costs in the summer (shading).
>
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Smith, Nancy via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <
> neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you all Nob Hill friends concerning the dying trees 308 Montclaire
> Dr NE.  I appreciate your input.  So, we called 311 and that was a dead
> end, referred to again the bernco assessor, left a message, no response yet.
> Faith and I had Erik's Tree Service over to check out our front yard
> spruce that is stressed over the drought.  Joe, the arborist, says that the
> tree across the street is a sycamore and is indeed dying as well as the
> other trees in that yard.  He also stated that our tree is suffering the
> drought even though we have taken costly measures to save our tree.  We
> will not give up on our tree and will continue to try to mend it, whatever
> it takes.
> What I know about the dying trees/owner across the street is that the prop
> is owned by Streamline Homes LLC, no phone #, just a PO box 91510 ,
> Albuquerque , 87199.  Perhaps a strongly worded letter from NBNA could
> help?  What do ya think?
> Thanks,
> N.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jun 19, 2014, at 12:48 PM, "kbking" <kingkb at swcp.com<mailto:kingkb
> @swcp.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Jack,
>
> Thanks for the note ~ I do want to clarify that it was I who suggested the
> burning (Sally just commented on the herbicides). Sorry if it seemed
> insulting, it wasn't meant to be. I've actually seen it used here in our
> neighborhood (super low flame right by the ground on short weeds) - seemed
> effective with appropriate use.
>
> Please accept a little humor here: you could be smarter than anyone looks!
> I might actually recognize about 2 people if I saw them ~ it's a different
> world :-)
>
> Karen
> On Jun 19, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Jack Hinton wrote:
>
> Karen,  I agree with just about everything you said.  I like the idea of a
> letter from the NHNA gently asking residents to take care of identified
> problems.  I take pride in my grass and large mulberry trees, even though
> I'm allergic to them.
>
> However, I don't think my neighbors or AFD would appreciate me lighting
> their weeds on fire.  Sally should know all the facts before she hits the
> reply to all button.  I'm smarter than I look.
>
> Jack
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 19, 2014, at 1:01 PM, kbking via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <
> neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com<mailto:neighbors_
> nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com>> wrote:
>
> I love our neighborhood and how so many people care about the area! I've
> driven through more desolate parts of town and have felt immense gratitude
> to be here in Nob Hill, where I can walk down the street and enjoy the big
> trees and beautiful yards ~~ and the work so many put in to developing
> their landscape, sometimes gradually over long periods.
>
> I want to say in advance on this note that I'm "one of those people" who
> often sees potential problems. I hope these thoughts can be seen as useful.
>
> If you water someone else's yard without their permission it might be
> problematic - particularly if you are using their water supply. The
> property owner is paying for the water (whether directly, or indirectly
> through fees paid to a management corporation, yes?). I don't think we have
> a right, even collectively, to tell (or through watering, "force") the
> owner to spend the additional money on this resource.
>
> I do believe we have a right to require safety, and I would think that the
> city can step in to help with that. Dead trees aren't safe. They break and
> fall on things like houses and cars. That said, cutting the trees down then
> becomes an option (not our favorite). ... and That said, I wonder if that
> wouldn't be expensive enough to encourage the owner to just go ahead and
> water the trees. (If the tenants are supposed to be doing it, maybe an
> automatic drip system could be installed).
>
> I can appreciate the thought that an owner who has handed management of a
> property over to a corporation doesn't care --- but why assume it? Maybe we
> need to investigate what makes sense to care about: the trees, the expense
> of cutting down the trees OR the drop in property value when the place is
> allowed to loose the trees (landscaping counts a bit).
>
> I don't know how to go about it all, but I think it might be nice for the
> NHNA to help out with a letter, if that's possible. It can be pretty
> difficult for an individual (or small group of) to approach an owner -- and
> the person who started this chain has tried to talk to the management
> corporation and been dismissed. Maybe a letter regarding neighborhood
> quality .... and see where you can bring in issues of safety (the city
> requires us to pull our weeds, there ought to be something in the rulebook
> about trees).
>
> Well, thanks for the opportunity to share thoughts ~ (and Jack, please do
> take Sally's comments into true consideration - there are an increasing
> number of adults as well whose health is adversely affected by herbicides
> and other products. Maybe burn them.. the weeds :-)
>
> Karen King
>
>
>
> On Jun 19, 2014, at 9:53 AM, ronhalbgewachs via Neighbors_nobhill-nm wrote:
>
> I would gather the renter doesn't care if the tree lives or dies.  Often
> such renters simply decide it is "not their job" to water plants, lawns, or
> trees.  Since there is a management company involved, the owner has little
> interest in what happens to the property.  Owners, in this case via the
> management company, pay the water bill since the city can place a lien on
> the property for unpaid water bills.
>
>
>
>  Is there a way to get the word out that the management company is failing
> in their maintenance of the property?  Certainly contacting the owner is a
> first step.  However, we have a property down the street and I have
> contacted him about the maintenance of the property...bottom line...he
> simply doesn't care!  A problem with 311 in cases such as this is that a
> warning may be delivered to the property, but may never be seen by the
> management company and certainly not by the owner.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary & Melodie Eyster via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
> Sent: Jun 19, 2014 9:14 AM
>
> To: 'Beverly Hill' , "'Smith, Nancy'" , neighbors at nobhill-nm.com<mailto:
> neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
> Subject: Re: [Neighbors] Dying Trees
>
> Nancy and Faith, Maybe the property owner would like for the tree to
> live.you can find his address at bernco.gov.assessor
>
> Maybe the resident would help.Gary
>
>
>
> From: Neighbors_nobhill-nm
> [mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm-bounces at mailman.swcp.com] On Behalf Of
> Beverly
> Hill via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 8:07 AM
>
> To: Smith, Nancy; neighbors at nobhill-nm.com<mailto:neighbors at nobhill-nm.com
> >
>
> Subject: Re: [Neighbors] Dying Trees
>
>
>
> This is a difficult issue. The same thing happened next door to me. I
> suggest calling 311 and asking to speak to the new city forester. The
> position is filled now, and he would have the most accurate knowledge (I
> would hope) about what can be done about this problem. Once you find out,
> would you let me know what he says? I am concerned about it, too, and could
> put something in the newsletter about how to handle the problem.
>
>
>
> Good luck, and thanks for caring,
>
> Beverly
>
> NHNA Newsletter Editor (for now)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: Smith,Nancy via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
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> To: neighbors at nobhill-nm.com<mailto:neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
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>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 3:48 PM
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> Subject: [Neighbors] Dying Trees
>
>
>
> Nob Hill Association Albuquerque ,
>
> As a proud property owner in Nob Hill, we ask if you have any suggestions
> on
> how to deal with a rental property, handled by a management firm that will
> not water their yard nor huge old trees ( 308 Montclaire Dr NE ). These
> poor
> older trees have not been watered in over a year and are dying. My family
> and I live across the street and am very concerned. We have spoken to the
> management firm (HeroPM) and have been poo pooed. We have spoken to several
> of our neighbors and they are equally concerned. Any ideas? Can NHNA help
> us?
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
>
>
> Nancy A. Smith and Faith DeLong
>
> 309 Montclaire Dr NE
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> 505-265-9588
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