[Neighbors] Homeless; Neighbors_nobhill-nm Digest, Vol 149, Issue 4

Thu Jul 11 07:52:40 MDT 2024

Homeless isn't a category of people, it's a situation different types of
people are in for different reasons, some by choice.  Addiction, mental
illness, unemployed/low to no income, bad luck, etc.  We need to pressure
city leadership a lot harder to find more effective solutions.  Personally
speaking, I'd replace current city leadership, they are ineffective in this
area and have been for a long time.

On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 10:11 PM Drew Lynde via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <
neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:

> As stark as Mike’s message might feel to some, my wife and I both
> wholeheartedly agree with all points and sentiments he has shared here.
> These are tough facts that shape our reality and there’s no point being
> naive about it.
>
> Drew Lynde
> 3716 Arlote Ave
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 10, 2024, at 5:09 PM, Mike P. via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <
> neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Bob,
>
> They don't have friends and family because many have stolen from them for
> years and their family and friends are exasperated trying to help them and
> have smartly told them to get out of their lives. So what if the West Side
> Shelter is next to a sewage plant?  Beggars can't be choosers.  And if it's
> that bad, then that should be motivation to lift yourself up with all the
> services we are providing them and get out of that situation.  It's better
> than having them in our neighborhoods dragging them down with theft, drug
> paraphernalia, frightening anyone just wanting to walk on Central and spend
> money at restaurants.  We had friends in town last week and we went to
> Little Bear Coffee but left because the homeless person in front of us
> stunk so bad of pee and poop, that it wasn't worth standing there waiting
> for a coffee.  So that business gave out a free coffee to that person and
> lost about $50 worth of business.  Brilliant.
>
> And our friends on Amherst told us that two days ago a homeless person
> walked into this woman's yard (via the front gate) and went out her back
> gate looking for things to steal.  You want to go into your backyard and
> come upon someone on meth?  You want kids to step into their backyard and
> come across this person?  We don't.  They will live where the shelters
> are.  It's ridiculous that they or anyone else would complain about where
> we put them.  "No, I don't want to go to the West Side Shelter, that's far
> away from where I steal and get my drugs, I wanna be near Nob Hill or
> you're being cruel to me."  Nonsense.
>
> The former homeless I encountered all say the same thing - it was so hard
> to be homeless that they did whatever they had to do to get out of that
> situation (one I know went on to run a very successful bakery).  If they
> want to get out of that miserable life they can and we're here to help, but
> many need to recognize that we are all just trying to survive and we should
> not have to pay for their constant bad choices in life.
>
> Mike
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 5:49 PM Robert L Anderson <citizen at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> We need to pressure the city to do more than ACS, they must reach out
>> with support and services to the people on the streets where they are and
>> try to move them to a more human situation.  I have seen some of these
>> folks with a bit of support and help move onto a better station in their
>> life.  They may not always be able to do it alone, not having any kind of
>> family or friends with capacity to help.   That is something the city
>> should do rather than bus them out to that dehumanizing West Side Shelter,
>> the one next to a sewage plant.
>> Bob
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________________________
>>
>> On Jul 9, 2024, at 2:15 PM, Mike Gallegos via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <
>> neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>>
>> I agree with Mike, flora and Karen….
>>
>> Mike Gallegos, Attorney
>> 308 Adams Street SE
>> Albuquerque, New Mexico 87108
>> Phone (505)266-4822
>> Fax (505)266-4156
>> Mike at MIkeGallegoslaw.com
>>
>> *From:* Neighbors_nobhill-nm [
>> mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm-bounces at mailman.swcp.com
>> <neighbors_nobhill-nm-bounces at mailman.swcp.com>] *On Behalf Of *Flora
>> Silva via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 9, 2024 10:44 AM
>> *To:* 'Mike P.' <moonpie785 at gmail.com>; 'Nob Hill' <
>> neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>; fgreen38 at comcast.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [Neighbors] Homeless; Neighbors_nobhill-nm Digest, Vol
>> 149, Issue 4
>>
>> Mike makes some very valid points.  I missed the video "from Nob Hill
>> where around 3:30 a.m., they are walking around and testing all our car
>> doors?"  Mike, could you please post that link?
>>
>>  Not only are car and home doors being tested, but I find it very
>> disturbing that they are wandering into yards and taking whatever is not
>> bolted down.
>>
>> Flora
>>
>> On Monday, July 8, 2024 at 10:28:30 PM MDT, fgreen38--- via
>> Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I have to agree with Mike.  We give to organizations that help the
>> homeless.  However, I have found that many of the homeless are content to
>> be where they are.
>>
>> Karen
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Neighbors_nobhill-nm <
>> neighbors_nobhill-nm-bounces at mailman.swcp.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike P.
>> via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 8, 2024 6:24 PM
>> *To:* Nob Hill <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Neighbors] Homeless; Neighbors_nobhill-nm Digest, Vol
>> 149, Issue 4
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello neighbors,
>>
>>
>>
>> Just another point of view about the homeless issue from Meta Hirschl's
>> below.  Not all of us support the homeless in the same way.  My wife and I
>> support those that help themselves.  I've worked with and around
>> homeless for years.  There are more than a few who are more than happy to
>> be right where they are.  How do I know?  I've tried to coax them into
>> being helped and they simply don't want it.  It's terribly sad but the way
>> it is for many of them.
>>
>>
>> We certainly won't partake in anything that brings homeless people closer
>> to Nob Hill, it's already bad enough.  Did you not see the recent video
>> from Nob Hill where around 3:30 a.m., they are walking around and testing
>> all our car doors?  You want them testing your side doors?  Your backyard?
>>
>>
>>
>> Not all of us want to encourage a Nob Hill overrun with homeless people
>> near our homes and businesses where more shops close, more homes don't
>> sell, more small businesses do not come because the crime is so bad so no
>> one goes to their store or restaurant?  How about when you're going out to
>> dinner at a great place like Mesa Provisions and a screaming maniac is on
>> Carlisle and Central and everyone and a couple with children had to
>> carefully walk around him.  You want more of that?  We already have some
>> crappy RV's parking in our neighborhood and more than a few tents.  I feel
>> like some of you don't have friends in Portland, Oakland or Denver.  I feel
>> like some of you are not media savvy and not watching the stories of good
>> people who love their homes (and poured their life savings into it) and are
>> having the home and quality of life ruined by homeless encampments near
>> them.  Our poor friends in the International District will tell you, the
>> city let them be overrun and now good luck selling your home if you want to
>> get away from the crazy.  They are stuck down there and I feel terrible for
>> them.
>>
>>
>>
>> We support raising our taxes to help people who don't have homes.  We
>> support housing those who want it in a building NOT near a residential area
>> or an area with small businesses (think barracks, one for men one for
>> women).  Just letting them sit on the deck of Ihatov with their naked dirty
>> ass out (about a month ago), is not what this neighborhood needs.
>> Compassion can also come with personal responsibility and making sure that
>> the quality of life for the good people of Albuquerque does not get ruined
>> by letting homeless do whatever they please in our beautiful neighborhood,
>> especially if we offer help and they do not want it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Date: Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 12:00 PM
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>> Today's Topics:
>>
>>    1. Nob Hill's Public Artwork (Gary Eyster)
>>    2. Wasp nest removal (Beth Silbergleit)
>>    3. Re: Wasp nest removal (Sharmin Dharas)
>>    4. Update on NHNA work (Meta Hirschl)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2024 10:05:22 -0600
>> From: "Gary Eyster" <meyster1 at me.com>
>> To: <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
>> Subject: [Neighbors] Nob Hill's Public Artwork
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>> Friends and Neighbors,
>>
>>
>>
>> Nob Hill was given this piece of public art in 2016 in celebration of our
>> 100th birthday.
>>
>> Artist John Davis created his sculpture at Campus Blvd and Wellesley Dr NE
>> under the auspices of CABQ's public art program.
>>
>> When we accepted it we agreed to maintain the area around it.
>>
>> It's now weed season and we need to step up.
>>
>>
>>
>> Could you help occasionally?
>>
>> You don't need to sign up. Just stop by when you can and contribute a few
>> minutes.
>>
>> For the thorny weeds you will want gloves. For some a small hoe.
>>
>>
>>
>> If we all pitch in we can do it!
>>
>>
>>
>> #VivaNobHill
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
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>> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2024 03:00:57 +0000
>> From: Beth Silbergleit <bsil at unm.edu>
>> To: Nob Hill <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
>> Subject: [Neighbors] Wasp nest removal
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>> Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2024 21:42:26 -0600
>> From: Sharmin Dharas <sharmin at herstoryhospitality.com>
>> To: Beth Silbergleit <bsil at unm.edu>
>> Cc: Nob Hill <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2024 06:09:51 -0600
>> From: Meta Hirschl <metaji.prajna at gmail.com>
>> To: NobHill Neighbors <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
>> Subject: [Neighbors] Update on NHNA work
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>> Nob Hill Neighborhood Association Supports the Unhoused
>>
>> Baratunde Thurston?s podcast, How To Citizen, reminds us that citizenship
>> is an action, not just a status. Beyond voting, we must work, volunteer,
>> and contribute to our community and democracy. Each day, we should ask
>> ourselves, "What can I do to make our lives better? What is my role as a
>> citizen?"
>>
>> On May 1st, neighbors from the Nob Hill Neighborhood Association (NHNA)
>> gathered to explore how we could actively ?citizen.? We met with community
>> organizations supporting the unhoused, including representatives from
>> Albuquerque Community Safety (ACS), UNM Echo, the City, and City Councilor
>> Nicole Rogers.
>>
>> Our goal was to find hands-on work to alleviate the suffering and despair
>> we witness on our neighborhood streets. Here?s what we decided:
>>
>> Our Immediate Action
>>
>> We were encouraged to contact the City Council to support funding for ACS.
>> We sent emails and letters to City Councilors, and attended meetings, both
>> in person and remotely, to voice our support. Notably, Nob Hill resident
>> Pat Hirschl, 91 years young, spoke to the City Council in support of ACS
>> funding on May 20th.
>>
>>
>> [image: A group of people in a meeting Description automatically
>> generated]
>>
>> The City Council voted to support ACS, with members acknowledging the
>> numerous emails and phone calls they received in support. Thank you, NHNA!
>>
>>
>> Our Longer Term Action
>>
>> The ACS Division Manager Walter Adams and his team suggested that hygiene
>> kits with basic personal supplies are crucial for the unhoused, and they
>> currently lack enough of them. Rev. Dr. Dawn Rosignol, pastor of Monte
>> Vista Christian Church, has experience assembling hygiene kits through
>> their youth program. Rev. Dawn and Meta Hirschl are co-leading this
>> effort.
>>
>>
>> We decided to host events to assemble hygiene kits for ACS to distribute,
>> and for neighbors to distribute directly. The kits include items such as
>> sunscreen, chapstick/lip gloss with sunscreen, toiletries, tampons/pads,
>> socks, tuna fish pouches, fruit cups, and a note of encouragement.
>>
>>
>> Additionally, we were invited to the Ribbon Cutting Ceremony of the new
>> ACS
>> building, which all residents of Albuquerque were invited to attend.
>>
>>
>>
>> In front of the new ACS building: ACS staff Jenny Carian, and neighbors
>> Pat
>> Hirschl and Bob Davis.
>>
>>
>> Here is more about Jenny:
>>
>>
>> Jenny grew up in Zuni Pueblo and holds a Bachelor of Science in Healthcare
>> Administration. She worked for five years as a Certified Nursing Assistant
>> before spending over 10 years in healthcare administration, primarily at
>> Presbyterian Hospital. Jenny comes to ACS from Ambercare Hospice where she
>> was the We Honor Veterans Coordinator.
>>
>>
>> Here is more about ACS:
>>
>> ACS Mission: To provide Albuquerque with a holistic,empathetic, and
>> informed response to behavioral and mental health 911 calls.
>>
>> Response are personalized ot that of the individual, family, and community
>> so that ACS can bring ?The Right Response at the Right Time?
>>
>>
>> ACS Vision: Any person can call for help and get a purposeful, humane and
>> appropriate response.?
>>
>>    -
>>
>>    ACS is a national leader in alternative public safety responses,
>> serving
>>    our community?s most vulnerable.
>>    -
>>
>>    In just over two and a half years, ACS has handled over 67,000 service
>>    calls, with 80% diverted from police, showcasing effective
>> community-based
>>    safety interventions.
>>    -
>>
>>    Other cities look to ACS as a model for developing similar programs.
>>
>>
>> Another longer term goal the group discussed was to promote the building
>> of  Accessory Dwelling Units
>> <
>> https://www.cabq.gov/planning/accessory-dwelling-unit/accessory-dwelling-units-adus-faqs
>> >
>> (ADUs)
>> in our community for those who are interested in this approach.
>>
>>
>> More to come, keep on the lookout for ways to volunteer.
>>
>> Meta.
>>
>> Meta Hirschl
>> *There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there
>> must never be a time when we fail to protest.* -Elie Wiesel
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