[Neighbors] Homeless; Neighbors_nobhill-nm Digest, Vol 149, Issue 4

Thu Jul 11 11:42:34 MDT 2024

Something I haven't seen brought up some of the difficulties in "getting
yourself out of this situation" Can't get an ID/license without a perm
address. Can't open a bank account with out an ID. Can't start a job
without an ID. Can't look for a job let alone interview one if you have no
where to keep your stuff, which is all you have left. There are many more
institutional injustices and prejudices that need addressed too. Care kits
are great but only one piece of the puzzle.

On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 11:12 AM Stephen Mullens via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <
neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:

> Homeless isn't a category of people, it's a situation different types of
> people are in for different reasons, some by choice.  Addiction, mental
> illness, unemployed/low to no income, bad luck, etc.  We need to pressure
> city leadership a lot harder to find more effective solutions.  Personally
> speaking, I'd replace current city leadership, they are ineffective in this
> area and have been for a long time.
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 10:11 PM Drew Lynde via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <
> neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
>> As stark as Mike’s message might feel to some, my wife and I both
>> wholeheartedly agree with all points and sentiments he has shared here.
>> These are tough facts that shape our reality and there’s no point being
>> naive about it.
>>
>> Drew Lynde
>> 3716 Arlote Ave
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 10, 2024, at 5:09 PM, Mike P. via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <
>> neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Bob,
>>
>> They don't have friends and family because many have stolen from them for
>> years and their family and friends are exasperated trying to help them and
>> have smartly told them to get out of their lives. So what if the West Side
>> Shelter is next to a sewage plant?  Beggars can't be choosers.  And if it's
>> that bad, then that should be motivation to lift yourself up with all the
>> services we are providing them and get out of that situation.  It's better
>> than having them in our neighborhoods dragging them down with theft, drug
>> paraphernalia, frightening anyone just wanting to walk on Central and spend
>> money at restaurants.  We had friends in town last week and we went to
>> Little Bear Coffee but left because the homeless person in front of us
>> stunk so bad of pee and poop, that it wasn't worth standing there waiting
>> for a coffee.  So that business gave out a free coffee to that person and
>> lost about $50 worth of business.  Brilliant.
>>
>> And our friends on Amherst told us that two days ago a homeless person
>> walked into this woman's yard (via the front gate) and went out her back
>> gate looking for things to steal.  You want to go into your backyard and
>> come upon someone on meth?  You want kids to step into their backyard and
>> come across this person?  We don't.  They will live where the shelters
>> are.  It's ridiculous that they or anyone else would complain about where
>> we put them.  "No, I don't want to go to the West Side Shelter, that's far
>> away from where I steal and get my drugs, I wanna be near Nob Hill or
>> you're being cruel to me."  Nonsense.
>>
>> The former homeless I encountered all say the same thing - it was so hard
>> to be homeless that they did whatever they had to do to get out of that
>> situation (one I know went on to run a very successful bakery).  If they
>> want to get out of that miserable life they can and we're here to help, but
>> many need to recognize that we are all just trying to survive and we should
>> not have to pay for their constant bad choices in life.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 5:49 PM Robert L Anderson <citizen at comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We need to pressure the city to do more than ACS, they must reach out
>>> with support and services to the people on the streets where they are and
>>> try to move them to a more human situation.  I have seen some of these
>>> folks with a bit of support and help move onto a better station in their
>>> life.  They may not always be able to do it alone, not having any kind of
>>> family or friends with capacity to help.   That is something the city
>>> should do rather than bus them out to that dehumanizing West Side Shelter,
>>> the one next to a sewage plant.
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> _________________________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> On Jul 9, 2024, at 2:15 PM, Mike Gallegos via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <
>>> neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree with Mike, flora and Karen….
>>>
>>> Mike Gallegos, Attorney
>>> 308 Adams Street SE
>>> Albuquerque, New Mexico 87108
>>> Phone (505)266-4822
>>> Fax (505)266-4156
>>> Mike at MIkeGallegoslaw.com
>>>
>>> *From:* Neighbors_nobhill-nm [
>>> mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm-bounces at mailman.swcp.com
>>> <neighbors_nobhill-nm-bounces at mailman.swcp.com>] *On Behalf Of *Flora
>>> Silva via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 9, 2024 10:44 AM
>>> *To:* 'Mike P.' <moonpie785 at gmail.com>; 'Nob Hill' <
>>> neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>; fgreen38 at comcast.net
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Neighbors] Homeless; Neighbors_nobhill-nm Digest, Vol
>>> 149, Issue 4
>>>
>>> Mike makes some very valid points.  I missed the video "from Nob Hill
>>> where around 3:30 a.m., they are walking around and testing all our car
>>> doors?"  Mike, could you please post that link?
>>>
>>>  Not only are car and home doors being tested, but I find it very
>>> disturbing that they are wandering into yards and taking whatever is not
>>> bolted down.
>>>
>>> Flora
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 8, 2024 at 10:28:30 PM MDT, fgreen38--- via
>>> Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have to agree with Mike.  We give to organizations that help the
>>> homeless.  However, I have found that many of the homeless are content to
>>> be where they are.
>>>
>>> Karen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Neighbors_nobhill-nm <
>>> neighbors_nobhill-nm-bounces at mailman.swcp.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike P.
>>> via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 8, 2024 6:24 PM
>>> *To:* Nob Hill <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Neighbors] Homeless; Neighbors_nobhill-nm Digest, Vol
>>> 149, Issue 4
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello neighbors,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just another point of view about the homeless issue from Meta Hirschl's
>>> below.  Not all of us support the homeless in the same way.  My wife and I
>>> support those that help themselves.  I've worked with and around
>>> homeless for years.  There are more than a few who are more than happy to
>>> be right where they are.  How do I know?  I've tried to coax them into
>>> being helped and they simply don't want it.  It's terribly sad but the way
>>> it is for many of them.
>>>
>>>
>>> We certainly won't partake in anything that brings homeless people
>>> closer to Nob Hill, it's already bad enough.  Did you not see the recent
>>> video from Nob Hill where around 3:30 a.m., they are walking around and
>>> testing all our car doors?  You want them testing your side doors?  Your
>>> backyard?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not all of us want to encourage a Nob Hill overrun with homeless people
>>> near our homes and businesses where more shops close, more homes don't
>>> sell, more small businesses do not come because the crime is so bad so no
>>> one goes to their store or restaurant?  How about when you're going out to
>>> dinner at a great place like Mesa Provisions and a screaming maniac is on
>>> Carlisle and Central and everyone and a couple with children had to
>>> carefully walk around him.  You want more of that?  We already have some
>>> crappy RV's parking in our neighborhood and more than a few tents.  I feel
>>> like some of you don't have friends in Portland, Oakland or Denver.  I feel
>>> like some of you are not media savvy and not watching the stories of good
>>> people who love their homes (and poured their life savings into it) and are
>>> having the home and quality of life ruined by homeless encampments near
>>> them.  Our poor friends in the International District will tell you, the
>>> city let them be overrun and now good luck selling your home if you want to
>>> get away from the crazy.  They are stuck down there and I feel terrible for
>>> them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We support raising our taxes to help people who don't have homes.  We
>>> support housing those who want it in a building NOT near a residential area
>>> or an area with small businesses (think barracks, one for men one for
>>> women).  Just letting them sit on the deck of Ihatov with their naked dirty
>>> ass out (about a month ago), is not what this neighborhood needs.
>>> Compassion can also come with personal responsibility and making sure that
>>> the quality of life for the good people of Albuquerque does not get ruined
>>> by letting homeless do whatever they please in our beautiful neighborhood,
>>> especially if we offer help and they do not want it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Today's Topics:
>>>
>>>    1. Nob Hill's Public Artwork (Gary Eyster)
>>>    2. Wasp nest removal (Beth Silbergleit)
>>>    3. Re: Wasp nest removal (Sharmin Dharas)
>>>    4. Update on NHNA work (Meta Hirschl)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2024 10:05:22 -0600
>>> From: "Gary Eyster" <meyster1 at me.com>
>>> To: <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
>>> Subject: [Neighbors] Nob Hill's Public Artwork
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Friends and Neighbors,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nob Hill was given this piece of public art in 2016 in celebration of our
>>> 100th birthday.
>>>
>>> Artist John Davis created his sculpture at Campus Blvd and Wellesley Dr
>>> NE
>>> under the auspices of CABQ's public art program.
>>>
>>> When we accepted it we agreed to maintain the area around it.
>>>
>>> It's now weed season and we need to step up.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Could you help occasionally?
>>>
>>> You don't need to sign up. Just stop by when you can and contribute a few
>>> minutes.
>>>
>>> For the thorny weeds you will want gloves. For some a small hoe.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If we all pitch in we can do it!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> #VivaNobHill
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2024 03:00:57 +0000
>>> From: Beth Silbergleit <bsil at unm.edu>
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>>> Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2024 21:42:26 -0600
>>> From: Sharmin Dharas <sharmin at herstoryhospitality.com>
>>> To: Beth Silbergleit <bsil at unm.edu>
>>> Cc: Nob Hill <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2024 06:09:51 -0600
>>> From: Meta Hirschl <metaji.prajna at gmail.com>
>>> To: NobHill Neighbors <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
>>> Subject: [Neighbors] Update on NHNA work
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>>> Nob Hill Neighborhood Association Supports the Unhoused
>>>
>>> Baratunde Thurston?s podcast, How To Citizen, reminds us that citizenship
>>> is an action, not just a status. Beyond voting, we must work, volunteer,
>>> and contribute to our community and democracy. Each day, we should ask
>>> ourselves, "What can I do to make our lives better? What is my role as a
>>> citizen?"
>>>
>>> On May 1st, neighbors from the Nob Hill Neighborhood Association (NHNA)
>>> gathered to explore how we could actively ?citizen.? We met with
>>> community
>>> organizations supporting the unhoused, including representatives from
>>> Albuquerque Community Safety (ACS), UNM Echo, the City, and City
>>> Councilor
>>> Nicole Rogers.
>>>
>>> Our goal was to find hands-on work to alleviate the suffering and despair
>>> we witness on our neighborhood streets. Here?s what we decided:
>>>
>>> Our Immediate Action
>>>
>>> We were encouraged to contact the City Council to support funding for
>>> ACS.
>>> We sent emails and letters to City Councilors, and attended meetings,
>>> both
>>> in person and remotely, to voice our support. Notably, Nob Hill resident
>>> Pat Hirschl, 91 years young, spoke to the City Council in support of ACS
>>> funding on May 20th.
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: A group of people in a meeting Description automatically
>>> generated]
>>>
>>> The City Council voted to support ACS, with members acknowledging the
>>> numerous emails and phone calls they received in support. Thank you,
>>> NHNA!
>>>
>>>
>>> Our Longer Term Action
>>>
>>> The ACS Division Manager Walter Adams and his team suggested that hygiene
>>> kits with basic personal supplies are crucial for the unhoused, and they
>>> currently lack enough of them. Rev. Dr. Dawn Rosignol, pastor of Monte
>>> Vista Christian Church, has experience assembling hygiene kits through
>>> their youth program. Rev. Dawn and Meta Hirschl are co-leading this
>>> effort.
>>>
>>>
>>> We decided to host events to assemble hygiene kits for ACS to distribute,
>>> and for neighbors to distribute directly. The kits include items such as
>>> sunscreen, chapstick/lip gloss with sunscreen, toiletries, tampons/pads,
>>> socks, tuna fish pouches, fruit cups, and a note of encouragement.
>>>
>>>
>>> Additionally, we were invited to the Ribbon Cutting Ceremony of the new
>>> ACS
>>> building, which all residents of Albuquerque were invited to attend.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In front of the new ACS building: ACS staff Jenny Carian, and neighbors
>>> Pat
>>> Hirschl and Bob Davis.
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is more about Jenny:
>>>
>>>
>>> Jenny grew up in Zuni Pueblo and holds a Bachelor of Science in
>>> Healthcare
>>> Administration. She worked for five years as a Certified Nursing
>>> Assistant
>>> before spending over 10 years in healthcare administration, primarily at
>>> Presbyterian Hospital. Jenny comes to ACS from Ambercare Hospice where
>>> she
>>> was the We Honor Veterans Coordinator.
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is more about ACS:
>>>
>>> ACS Mission: To provide Albuquerque with a holistic,empathetic, and
>>> informed response to behavioral and mental health 911 calls.
>>>
>>> Response are personalized ot that of the individual, family, and
>>> community
>>> so that ACS can bring ?The Right Response at the Right Time?
>>>
>>>
>>> ACS Vision: Any person can call for help and get a purposeful, humane and
>>> appropriate response.?
>>>
>>>    -
>>>
>>>    ACS is a national leader in alternative public safety responses,
>>> serving
>>>    our community?s most vulnerable.
>>>    -
>>>
>>>    In just over two and a half years, ACS has handled over 67,000 service
>>>    calls, with 80% diverted from police, showcasing effective
>>> community-based
>>>    safety interventions.
>>>    -
>>>
>>>    Other cities look to ACS as a model for developing similar programs.
>>>
>>>
>>> Another longer term goal the group discussed was to promote the building
>>> of  Accessory Dwelling Units
>>> <
>>> https://www.cabq.gov/planning/accessory-dwelling-unit/accessory-dwelling-units-adus-faqs
>>> >
>>> (ADUs)
>>> in our community for those who are interested in this approach.
>>>
>>>
>>> More to come, keep on the lookout for ways to volunteer.
>>>
>>> Meta.
>>>
>>> Meta Hirschl
>>> *There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there
>>> must never be a time when we fail to protest.* -Elie Wiesel
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