[Neighbors] Homeless; Neighbors_nobhill-nm Digest, Vol 149, Issue 4
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Sat Jul 13 11:21:22 MDT 2024
Yes, Thank you Van!
Sending this write up was very kind and helpful of you :)
Karen On Hermosa
On Jul 13 2024 8:00 AM, Karen Mendenhall via Neighbors_nobhill-nm wrote:
> Thanks for the thorough summary, Van.
>
> Karen S Mendenhall
> 505.280.2097
> abqkaren at gmail.com
>
> "People have the power to wrestle the earth from fools." Patti Smith
>
> On Jul 12, 2024, at 12:54 PM, vaneldredge via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
> <neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
> Good afternoon Gary and Nob Hill neighbors,
>
> I was able to attend the meet and greet event hosted by Councilor
> Rogers at Flying Star on Thursday evening July 11th.
> There were about 20 people present including the Councilor and her
> staff. Introductions by the attendees identified them as a mixture of
> residents and business owners from several of the different
> neighborhoods in the district to include Nob Hill.
> The majority of the approximately 90 minute conversation centered
> around the issues of crime and homelessness in Council district 6.
> Councilor Rogers expressed a frustration with the Keller administration
> not being able to provide her with a timeline for when the Gateway
> center would be fully operational or when the Westside Emergency center
> would have a contract in place for a management company to operate the
> facility for the fiscal year that began July 1.
> Both facilities have received funding from City Council.
> She recommended that concerned citizens contact the Mayor's office
> regarding both facilities as well as to attend upcoming city council
> meetings and sign up for public comment.
> Councilor Rogers stated that she has reached out to the Bernalillo
> County Sheriff's Department and the NM State Police department to
> proactively patrol her council district as she does not feel that the
> Mayor and Chief of Police in Albuquerque have been responsive to her
> requests.
> She specifically mentioned that Bernalillo County Sheriff Allen had
> agreed to assign Deputies to patrol the area around San Pedro and
> Central Blvd SE but did not identify any Nob Hill neighborhood areas
> that would addressed.
> She further highlighted some infrastructure changes such as lighting
> and fencing material which is being installed in the alleyways of the
> International District in an effort to thwart some of the ongoing crime
> in those locations.
> She concluded the meeting by inviting people to call/email her and her
> staff about issues of concern.
>
> Van
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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> From: Gary Eyster via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
> <neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com>
> Date: 7/12/24 10:01 AM (GMT-07:00)
> To: 'NobHill Neighbors' <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
> Subject: [Neighbors] Homeless; Neighbors_nobhill-nm Digest, Vol 149,
> Issue 4
>
> If any Hilleño got to Councilor Rogers' meet and greet yesterday and if
> any of these issues were discussed can you update us here?
>
> Thanks, Gary
>
> From: Neighbors_nobhill-nm
> [mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm-bounces at mailman.swcp.com] On Behalf Of
> Philip Dale via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2024 4:27 PM
> To: Scott Snyder <scottmsnyder528 at gmail.com>
> Cc: Nob Hill <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
> Subject: Re: [Neighbors] Homeless; Neighbors_nobhill-nm Digest, Vol
> 149, Issue 4
>
> No one has the solutions to the multiple kinds of homelessness. The
> Finns have been statistically the most successful, and their stratategy
> is housing first and foremost for the reasons you suggest.
>
> Philip Dale
>
> -------------------------
>
> From: Neighbors_nobhill-nm
> <neighbors_nobhill-nm-bounces at mailman.swcp.com> on behalf of Scott
> Snyder via Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2024 11:42:34 AM
> Cc: Nob Hill <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
> Subject: Re: [Neighbors] Homeless; Neighbors_nobhill-nm Digest, Vol
> 149, Issue 4
>
> [EXTERNAL]
>
> Something I haven't seen brought up some of the difficulties in
> "getting yourself out of this situation" Can't get an ID/license
> without a perm address. Can't open a bank account with out an ID. Can't
> start a job without an ID. Can't look for a job let alone interview one
> if you have no where to keep your stuff, which is all you have left.
> There are many more institutional injustices and prejudices that need
> addressed too. Care kits are great but only one piece of the puzzle.
>
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 11:12 AM Stephen Mullens via
> Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
> Homeless isn't a category of people, it's a situation different types
> of people are in for different reasons, some by choice. Addiction,
> mental illness, unemployed/low to no income, bad luck, etc. We need to
> pressure city leadership a lot harder to find more effective solutions.
> Personally speaking, I'd replace current city leadership, they are
> ineffective in this area and have been for a long time.
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 10:11 PM Drew Lynde via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
> <neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
> As stark as Mike's message might feel to some, my wife and I both
> wholeheartedly agree with all points and sentiments he has shared here.
> These are tough facts that shape our reality and there's no point being
> naive about it.
>
> Drew Lynde
>
> 3716 Arlote Ave
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 10, 2024, at 5:09 PM, Mike P. via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
> <neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
> Bob,
>
> They don't have friends and family because many have stolen from them
> for years and their family and friends are exasperated trying to help
> them and have smartly told them to get out of their lives. So what if
> the West Side Shelter is next to a sewage plant? Beggars can't be
> choosers. And if it's that bad, then that should be motivation to lift
> yourself up with all the services we are providing them and get out of
> that situation. It's better than having them in our neighborhoods
> dragging them down with theft, drug paraphernalia, frightening anyone
> just wanting to walk on Central and spend money at restaurants. We had
> friends in town last week and we went to Little Bear Coffee but left
> because the homeless person in front of us stunk so bad of pee and
> poop, that it wasn't worth standing there waiting for a coffee. So
> that business gave out a free coffee to that person and lost about $50
> worth of business. Brilliant.
>
> And our friends on Amherst told us that two days ago a homeless person
> walked into this woman's yard (via the front gate) and went out her
> back gate looking for things to steal. You want to go into your
> backyard and come upon someone on meth? You want kids to step into
> their backyard and come across this person? We don't. They will live
> where the shelters are. It's ridiculous that they or anyone else would
> complain about where we put them. "No, I don't want to go to the West
> Side Shelter, that's far away from where I steal and get my drugs, I
> wanna be near Nob Hill or you're being cruel to me." Nonsense.
>
> The former homeless I encountered all say the same thing - it was so
> hard to be homeless that they did whatever they had to do to get out of
> that situation (one I know went on to run a very successful bakery).
> If they want to get out of that miserable life they can and we're here
> to help, but many need to recognize that we are all just trying to
> survive and we should not have to pay for their constant bad choices in
> life.
>
> Mike
>
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 5:49 PM Robert L Anderson <citizen at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> We need to pressure the city to do more than ACS, they must reach out
> with support and services to the people on the streets where they are
> and try to move them to a more human situation. I have seen some of
> these folks with a bit of support and help move onto a better station
> in their life. They may not always be able to do it alone, not having
> any kind of family or friends with capacity to help. That is
> something the city should do rather than bus them out to that
> dehumanizing West Side Shelter, the one next to a sewage plant.
>
> Bob
>
> _________________________________________________________________________________
>
> On Jul 9, 2024, at 2:15 PM, Mike Gallegos via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
> <neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
> I agree with Mike, flora and Karen....
>
> Mike Gallegos, Attorney
>
> 308 Adams Street SE
>
> Albuquerque, New Mexico 87108
>
> Phone (505)266-4822
>
> Fax (505)266-4156
>
> Mike at MIkeGallegoslaw.com
>
> From: Neighbors_nobhill-nm
> [mailto:neighbors_nobhill-nm-bounces at mailman.swcp.com] On Behalf Of
> Flora Silva via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
> Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2024 10:44 AM
> To: 'Mike P.' <moonpie785 at gmail.com>; 'Nob Hill'
> <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>; fgreen38 at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [Neighbors] Homeless; Neighbors_nobhill-nm Digest, Vol
> 149, Issue 4
>
> Mike makes some very valid points. I missed the video "from Nob Hill
> where around 3:30 a.m., they are walking around and testing all our car
> doors?" Mike, could you please post that link?
>
> Not only are car and home doors being tested, but I find it very
> disturbing that they are wandering into yards and taking whatever is
> not bolted down.
>
> Flora
>
> On Monday, July 8, 2024 at 10:28:30 PM MDT, fgreen38--- via
> Neighbors_nobhill-nm <neighbors_nobhill-nm at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
> I have to agree with Mike. We give to organizations that help the
> homeless. However, I have found that many of the homeless are content
> to be where they are.
>
> Karen
>
> From: Neighbors_nobhill-nm
> <neighbors_nobhill-nm-bounces at mailman.swcp.com> On Behalf Of Mike P.
> via Neighbors_nobhill-nm
> Sent: Monday, July 8, 2024 6:24 PM
> To: Nob Hill <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
> Subject: Re: [Neighbors] Homeless; Neighbors_nobhill-nm Digest, Vol
> 149, Issue 4
>
> Hello neighbors,
>
> Just another point of view about the homeless issue from Meta Hirschl's
> below. Not all of us support the homeless in the same way. My wife
> and I support those that help themselves. I've worked with and around
> homeless for years. There are more than a few who are more than happy
> to be right where they are. How do I know? I've tried to coax them
> into being helped and they simply don't want it. It's terribly sad but
> the way it is for many of them.
>
> We certainly won't partake in anything that brings homeless people
> closer to Nob Hill, it's already bad enough. Did you not see the
> recent video from Nob Hill where around 3:30 a.m., they are walking
> around and testing all our car doors? You want them testing your side
> doors? Your backyard?
>
> Not all of us want to encourage a Nob Hill overrun with homeless people
> near our homes and businesses where more shops close, more homes don't
> sell, more small businesses do not come because the crime is so bad so
> no one goes to their store or restaurant? How about when you're going
> out to dinner at a great place like Mesa Provisions and a screaming
> maniac is on Carlisle and Central and everyone and a couple with
> children had to carefully walk around him. You want more of that? We
> already have some crappy RV's parking in our neighborhood and more than
> a few tents. I feel like some of you don't have friends in Portland,
> Oakland or Denver. I feel like some of you are not media savvy and not
> watching the stories of good people who love their homes (and poured
> their life savings into it) and are having the home and quality of life
> ruined by homeless encampments near them. Our poor friends in the
> International District will tell you, the city let them be overrun and
> now good luck selling your home if you want to get away from the crazy.
> They are stuck down there and I feel terrible for them.
>
> We support raising our taxes to help people who don't have homes. We
> support housing those who want it in a building NOT near a residential
> area or an area with small businesses (think barracks, one for men one
> for women). Just letting them sit on the deck of Ihatov with their
> naked dirty ass out (about a month ago), is not what this neighborhood
> needs. Compassion can also come with personal responsibility and
> making sure that the quality of life for the good people of Albuquerque
> does not get ruined by letting homeless do whatever they please in our
> beautiful neighborhood, especially if we offer help and they do not
> want it.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Mike
>
> From: <neighbors_nobhill-nm-request at mailman.swcp.com>
> Date: Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 12:00 PM
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> 1. Nob Hill's Public Artwork (Gary Eyster)
> 2. Wasp nest removal (Beth Silbergleit)
> 3. Re: Wasp nest removal (Sharmin Dharas)
> 4. Update on NHNA work (Meta Hirschl)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2024 10:05:22 -0600
> From: "Gary Eyster" <meyster1 at me.com>
> To: <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
> Subject: [Neighbors] Nob Hill's Public Artwork
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> Friends and Neighbors,
>
> Nob Hill was given this piece of public art in 2016 in celebration of
> our
> 100th birthday.
>
> Artist John Davis created his sculpture at Campus Blvd and Wellesley Dr
> NE
> under the auspices of CABQ's public art program.
>
> When we accepted it we agreed to maintain the area around it.
>
> It's now weed season and we need to step up.
>
> Could you help occasionally?
>
> You don't need to sign up. Just stop by when you can and contribute a
> few
> minutes.
>
> For the thorny weeds you will want gloves. For some a small hoe.
>
> If we all pitch in we can do it!
>
> #VivaNobHill
>
> Gary
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> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2024 03:00:57 +0000
> From: Beth Silbergleit <bsil at unm.edu>
> To: Nob Hill <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
> Subject: [Neighbors] Wasp nest removal
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> Anyone have a recommendation for removal of a small wasp nest?
> Thanks...
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> To: Beth Silbergleit <bsil at unm.edu>
> Cc: Nob Hill <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
> Subject: Re: [Neighbors] Wasp nest removal
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> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2024 06:09:51 -0600
> From: Meta Hirschl <metaji.prajna at gmail.com>
> To: NobHill Neighbors <neighbors at nobhill-nm.com>
> Subject: [Neighbors] Update on NHNA work
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> Nob Hill Neighborhood Association Supports the Unhoused
>
> Baratunde Thurston?s podcast, How To Citizen, reminds us that
> citizenship
> is an action, not just a status. Beyond voting, we must work,
> volunteer,
> and contribute to our community and democracy. Each day, we should ask
> ourselves, "What can I do to make our lives better? What is my role as
> a
> citizen?"
>
> On May 1st, neighbors from the Nob Hill Neighborhood Association (NHNA)
> gathered to explore how we could actively ?citizen.? We met with
> community
> organizations supporting the unhoused, including representatives from
> Albuquerque Community Safety (ACS), UNM Echo, the City, and City
> Councilor
> Nicole Rogers.
>
> Our goal was to find hands-on work to alleviate the suffering and
> despair
> we witness on our neighborhood streets. Here?s what we decided:
>
> Our Immediate Action
>
> We were encouraged to contact the City Council to support funding for
> ACS.
> We sent emails and letters to City Councilors, and attended meetings,
> both
> in person and remotely, to voice our support. Notably, Nob Hill
> resident
> Pat Hirschl, 91 years young, spoke to the City Council in support of
> ACS
> funding on May 20th.
>
> [image: A group of people in a meeting Description automatically
> generated]
>
> The City Council voted to support ACS, with members acknowledging the
> numerous emails and phone calls they received in support. Thank you,
> NHNA!
>
> Our Longer Term Action
>
> The ACS Division Manager Walter Adams and his team suggested that
> hygiene
> kits with basic personal supplies are crucial for the unhoused, and
> they
> currently lack enough of them. Rev. Dr. Dawn Rosignol, pastor of Monte
> Vista Christian Church, has experience assembling hygiene kits through
> their youth program. Rev. Dawn and Meta Hirschl are co-leading this
> effort.
>
> We decided to host events to assemble hygiene kits for ACS to
> distribute,
> and for neighbors to distribute directly. The kits include items such
> as
> sunscreen, chapstick/lip gloss with sunscreen, toiletries,
> tampons/pads,
> socks, tuna fish pouches, fruit cups, and a note of encouragement.
>
> Additionally, we were invited to the Ribbon Cutting Ceremony of the new
> ACS
> building, which all residents of Albuquerque were invited to attend.
>
> In front of the new ACS building: ACS staff Jenny Carian, and neighbors
> Pat
> Hirschl and Bob Davis.
>
> Here is more about Jenny:
>
> Jenny grew up in Zuni Pueblo and holds a Bachelor of Science in
> Healthcare
> Administration. She worked for five years as a Certified Nursing
> Assistant
> before spending over 10 years in healthcare administration, primarily
> at
> Presbyterian Hospital. Jenny comes to ACS from Ambercare Hospice where
> she
> was the We Honor Veterans Coordinator.
>
> Here is more about ACS:
>
> ACS Mission: To provide Albuquerque with a holistic,empathetic, and
> informed response to behavioral and mental health 911 calls.
>
> Response are personalized ot that of the individual, family, and
> community
> so that ACS can bring ?The Right Response at the Right Time?
>
> ACS Vision: Any person can call for help and get a purposeful, humane
> and
> appropriate response.?
>
> -
>
> ACS is a national leader in alternative public safety responses,
> serving
> our community?s most vulnerable.
> -
>
> In just over two and a half years, ACS has handled over 67,000 service
> calls, with 80% diverted from police, showcasing effective
> community-based
> safety interventions.
> -
>
> Other cities look to ACS as a model for developing similar programs.
>
> Another longer term goal the group discussed was to promote the
> building
> of Accessory Dwelling Units
> <https://www.cabq.gov/planning/accessory-dwelling-unit/accessory-dwelling-units-adus-faqs
> [8]>
> (ADUs)
> in our community for those who are interested in this approach.
>
> More to come, keep on the lookout for ways to volunteer.
>
> Meta.
>
> Meta Hirschl
> *There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but
> there
> must never be a time when we fail to protest.* -Elie Wiesel
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