[NMCCSC] Please Move Conversation // Re: SNOTEL Snow Report / 1-12-24

Sun Jan 14 12:27:42 MST 2024

I agree!  I love Barry's snow reports and I believe we all do!  Keep them
coming!  Thank you, Barry, and thanks Dana and Vicky!  Bg

On Sun, Jan 14, 2024, 8:35 AM Vicky Kauffman <vickykauffman53 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I agree with Dana. I look to email for snow conditions and also get them
> from Sandia Nordic, lots of them. But can delete those that are already in
> the stream. It’s not a problem. Read the latest and then delete the rest.
> Smile and be patient. People are just trying to help others go have fun.
>
> Cheers,
> Vicky
>
>
>
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> On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 5:37 PM dana_price--- via NMCCSCeGroup <
> nmccscegroup at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>
>> I personally don’t want to have to go to facebook to hear about access to
>> the mountain closest to  most of our population. This is s very relevant
>> topic.
>> However, I would suggest getting a group together to explore solutions,
>> perhaps coordinating with Sandia Nordic and the ski area. This is going to
>> take a lot of work, not just complaining. How about putting out a call for
>> people to work on the issue, and then take this conversation offline.
>> Dana
>>
>> On 1/13/24 at 7:41 AM, Bet Gendron via NMCCSCeGroup wrote:
>>
>> From: "Bet Gendron via NMCCSCeGroup" <nmccscegroup at mailman.swcp.com>
>> Date: January 13, 2024
>> To: "Barry Ritchey" <barrywind505 at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "NMCCSCEGroup Swcp" <nmccscegroup at mailman.swcp.com>
>> Subject: [NMCCSC] Please Move Conversation // Re: SNOTEL Snow Report /
>> 1-12-24
>>
>> Hi All-  Barry, Robert, Dean, Gil-
>> Could you move this conversation out of the Club's Egroup realm?  You
>> could talk between yourselves and/or move it to our Facebook site.  People
>> really appreciate reducing the chatter into their inboxes. Just 'forward'
>> to each other, not 'reply'.
>> Meanwhile, we can all enjoy our newly cleared Crest rd and parking lots!
>> Thanks, guys.  Bet
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 13, 2024, 7:26 AM Barry Ritchey via NMCCSCeGroup <
>> nmccscegroup at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Official NMDOT names of the guilty... or not guilty... of plowing..
>>> .
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 8:52 PM Robert Evans via NMCCSCeGroup <
>>> nmccscegroup at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Regarding plowing the crest Road, we don’t need to send anyone all the
>>>> way to Colorado to learn how to deal with deep snow, only up to Santa Fe.
>>>> The road through Hyde Park up to Aspen Vista and Santa Fe Ski area is
>>>> plowed incredibly well just like deep snow areas in Colorado. They got over
>>>> 4 feet of snow up there this week and also problems with drifting and the
>>>> road was perfectly clear by Wednesday morning with wide lanes, plowed
>>>> shoulders and turnouts, and very high snowbanks on the side. They must have
>>>> the equipment up there, so why can’t it happen down here?
>>>> Of course, there is a ski area up there, but I’m not sure that should
>>>> make a big difference.
>>>> Robert Evans
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 12, 2024, at 12:56 PM, Dean Kuethe via NMCCSCeGroup <
>>>> nmccscegroup at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> I share the incredulity but we need to identify a way to fund the
>>>> effort and inform public works or whoever that the snow plow needs to don
>>>> chains, the road needs tall reflectors so the driver knows where the road
>>>> is, etc.  [I saw the plow stuck twice this winter already.  In one case the
>>>> rescue grader got stuck as well until the driver put on chains]  Perhaps
>>>> someone knows how to put a mill levey or something on a ballot or how we
>>>> might raise enough money from winter sports enthusiasts.  At present, it
>>>> appears Bernallillo county is not equipped to plow a road in a place where
>>>> it really snows.  Perhaps in a program similar to sending a chef to Europe
>>>> to learn cooking, we can send a team to Colorado to learn how to plow deep
>>>> snow.  We need to pay plow drivers enough to plow during wee morning hours
>>>> so they don't have to plow around stuck vehicles.
>>>> I doubt this can happen this winter.  Us winter recreation fans and
>>>> associated businesses probably need to "step up to the plate".  The other
>>>> capitalist entities that may join are the companies that need access to the
>>>> communication towers.
>>>> One of those giant snow blowers they use in Wolf Creek Pass would be
>>>> great but I bet they cost a fortune.  Traditionally, our plow leaves
>>>> huge banks of snow in the road in heavy snow years, reducing the road to
>>>> one lane in spots. It costs money to remedy that.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 12:26 PM Gil Stewart via NMCCSCeGroup <
>>>> nmccscegroup at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't want you to take this wrong or it is not meant to be
>>>>> disrespectful but the road to the crest needs to be open and i mean
>>>>> yesterday. The States largest mountain next to the largest city in New
>>>>> Mexico and w no-one can access it. I realize there is not enough man power
>>>>> but that response is not acceptable me especoally now that the tram is
>>>>> closed.There I said it I feel better now.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 12, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Barry Ritchey via NMCCSCeGroup <
>>>>> nmccscegroup at mailman.swcp.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Snow report from SNOTEL sites around the Southwest. Friday, January
>>>>> 12, 2024.
>>>>>
>>>>> These numbers are more aligned with what a plunged ski pole might
>>>>> measure, compared to a magic snowdrift at a ski area. Most NM mountains
>>>>> have a snowpack well over 100% of normal, with SW Colorado mountains still
>>>>> below normal. But who knows what the new normal is…
>>>>>
>>>>> Inches of snowpack today, Jan 12, and a week ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sandias – No SNOTEL sensor, but it’s good to excellent. But will they
>>>>> ever plow the road?
>>>>>
>>>>> Santa Fe – 44”, up from 32” a week ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jemez (Quemazon) – 30” up from 21”
>>>>>
>>>>> Hopewell Lake – 31” up from 23” (Check NMRoads before driving up. US64
>>>>> is prone to closings.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cumbress/Chama – 48” doubled from 24”
>>>>>
>>>>> Wolf Creek Pass – 59” up from 32”
>>>>>
>>>>> Red Mtn. Pass – 38” up from 28”
>>>>>
>>>>> Let it snow,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ritchey, Tele Ranger
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