[NMCycling] This is why we should always wear cameras

[David Rutledge via Bike-racers]

this is a newer product that might help in many cases without the 
aggressor issue being included.

dave


On 5/13/15 9:07 PM, paul via Bike-racers wrote:
> Agreed. To amplify, Bob Mionski - Legally Speaking - makes the point 
> about how a camera can work against you. It'll record "those five stop 
> signs you burned through and that red light you ignored", which could 
> easily turn you from the victim to the aggressor.
>
> Fyi, Bob spent a summer here in the 90's and has quite a resume: 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Mionske#Palmar.C3.A8s
>
>
> On 05/13/2015 07:41 PM, Chuck Peper via Bike-racers wrote:
>> The guy in the car could get off with a good lawyer simply because 
>> some courts might considered him the aggressor by flipping off the 
>> driver.
>> I'm not a lawyer but I like to read and I always enjoy "legally 
>> speaking".    Really good book to read which is based on Concealed 
>> Carry is The Law of Self Defense.  All kinds of interesting stuff on 
>> Thresholds, Principle of Avoidance, and Proportionality, which if you 
>> like to use aggressive language or gestures after someone nearly 
>> kills you, you should probably read.
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>>
>> Chuck Peper
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>> *From*: "Neil McCasland via Bike-racers" <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com>
>> *Sent*: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 6:56 PM
>> *To*: "bike-racers at swcp.com" <bike-racers at swcp.com>
>> *Subject*: Re: [NMCycling] This is why we should always wear cameras
>> All,
>>
>> I've been commuting daily with this trick bit of kit running: 
>> https://cycliq.com/product/fly6
>>
>> works about as claimed, high quality video and audio recorded, and a 
>> good rear light.   They have a new front light rig too now.
>>
>> Will also point out Velo News has a regular column, "legally 
>> speaking" that helps understand what we should can expect w the 
>> law.   Here's one on video cameras in particular: 
>> http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/03/news/road/legally-speaking-bob-mionske-riding-video-cameras_363668
>>
>> Good news (to me) is law enforcement is willing to act on evidence 
>> that cameras can record.   Note to self is to cut out beating on 
>> roofs and windows to cue a too close driver - my behavior's on record 
>> too!
>>
>> Ride hard, ride safe - Congrats to Lobo velomen and women!
>>
>> Neil McC
>> On 5/13/15 2:10 PM, Craig M. Doolittle via Bike-racers wrote:
>>>
>>> (and think twice about pissing off cars)
>>>
>>> http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/assault-caught-on-bikers-helmet-cam/vi-BBjIP2a
>>>
>>> Craig
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