[NMCycling] This is why we should always wear cameras

[David Rutledge via Bike-racers]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fly6/fly6-cycling-accessory-hd-camera-and-tail-light-co/video_share


On 5/14/15 10:34 AM, David Rutledge via Bike-racers wrote:
> this is a newer product that might help in many cases without the 
> aggressor issue being included.
>
> dave
>
>
> On 5/13/15 9:07 PM, paul via Bike-racers wrote:
>> Agreed. To amplify, Bob Mionski - Legally Speaking - makes the point 
>> about how a camera can work against you. It'll record "those five 
>> stop signs you burned through and that red light you ignored", which 
>> could easily turn you from the victim to the aggressor.
>>
>> Fyi, Bob spent a summer here in the 90's and has quite a resume: 
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Mionske#Palmar.C3.A8s
>>
>>
>> On 05/13/2015 07:41 PM, Chuck Peper via Bike-racers wrote:
>>> The guy in the car could get off with a good lawyer simply because 
>>> some courts might considered him the aggressor by flipping off the 
>>> driver.
>>> I'm not a lawyer but I like to read and I always enjoy "legally 
>>> speaking".    Really good book to read which is based on Concealed 
>>> Carry is The Law of Self Defense.  All kinds of interesting stuff on 
>>> Thresholds, Principle of Avoidance, and Proportionality, which if 
>>> you like to use aggressive language or gestures after someone nearly 
>>> kills you, you should probably read.
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Chuck Peper
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>>> *From*: "Neil McCasland via Bike-racers" <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com>
>>> *Sent*: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 6:56 PM
>>> *To*: "bike-racers at swcp.com" <bike-racers at swcp.com>
>>> *Subject*: Re: [NMCycling] This is why we should always wear cameras
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I've been commuting daily with this trick bit of kit running: 
>>> https://cycliq.com/product/fly6
>>>
>>> works about as claimed, high quality video and audio recorded, and a 
>>> good rear light.   They have a new front light rig too now.
>>>
>>> Will also point out Velo News has a regular column, "legally 
>>> speaking" that helps understand what we should can expect w the 
>>> law.   Here's one on video cameras in particular: 
>>> http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/03/news/road/legally-speaking-bob-mionske-riding-video-cameras_363668
>>>
>>> Good news (to me) is law enforcement is willing to act on evidence 
>>> that cameras can record.   Note to self is to cut out beating on 
>>> roofs and windows to cue a too close driver - my behavior's on 
>>> record too!
>>>
>>> Ride hard, ride safe - Congrats to Lobo velomen and women!
>>>
>>> Neil McC
>>> On 5/13/15 2:10 PM, Craig M. Doolittle via Bike-racers wrote:
>>>>
>>>> (and think twice about pissing off cars)
>>>>
>>>> http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/assault-caught-on-bikers-helmet-cam/vi-BBjIP2a
>>>>
>>>> Craig
>>>>
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