[NMCycling] Mari Holden trivia
David Porter via Bike-racers
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Wed Jul 20 15:01:12 MDT 2016
John is often looking for a stoker on the tandem.. if you have never
been, don't miss the opportunity. He is STILL very, very strong... wait
for the bobbing and grunts.. breath taking..
dp
On 7/20/2016 2:40 PM, Clay Moseley via Bike-racers wrote:
>
> I was at the turn-around that day (I was too poor to afford the entry
> fee). I very well remember the long line of traffic that was held up
> just before the "big guys" (Frey, Bostick, etc.) came through the turn
> around just north of Estancia, including some very slow-accelerating,
> heavily loaded trucks.
>
> Now, having been there myself, I know how much a truck moving at
> speeds in the 40s (mph) helps when you're averaging 34 mph yourself.
> I've had a lot of long car trips with Kent Bostick to hear the
> inch-by-inch replay of that day. Many factors were at play, but the
> bottom line is that Frey was the only guy who could pedal that fast
> that day (on a fixie, no less...). Recall that Frey also win the
> national TT championship at the 1988 Olympic trials, ahead of arguably
> one of the most talented group of American TT strong-men ever
> assembled (Norm Alvis, etc.).
>
> I've been on Frey's wheel in many hard races, and the guy was the
> master of the "big wind-up," where everyone else was completely spun
> out, or maxed out, and he could always reach for more with just a
> little more RPM that no one else could muster. I can vividly remember
> the look of his pedal stroke and the back of his legs, and how he
> would actually sit up straighter and higher on his bike to do it (vs.
> the famous "Bosti-meter" head tilt and full spasm body crouch of Kent
> Bostick).
>
> Besides Jim Warsa, anyone else remember the "Great Vaughn to Roswell
> Road Race" the day we had that tailwind and did 90+miles in like 2:45?
> Classic John Frey conditions...
>
> On Jul 20, 2016 1:15 PM, "Warsa, James S" <warsa at lanl.gov
> <mailto:warsa at lanl.gov>> wrote:
>
> Weather. Double-tailwind that day.
>
>
> --
> Jim Warsa
> Transport Methods Section
> Computational Physics and Methods Group, CCS-2
> Computer, Computational and Statistical Sciences Division
> Los Alamos National Laboratory
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> <mailto:bike-racers-bounces at mailman.swcp.com>> on behalf of George
> Tapley via Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 20, 2016 12:19 PM
> *To:* paul; Craig M. Doolittle; Craig Denman; Clay Moseley; Chad
> Patterson; NM Bike Racers
> *Subject:* Re: [NMCycling] Mari Holden trivia
> Chad,
> Back in the fast days before the shoulder there was the tire wear
> strip. That was the fast line.
>
> I know I have spoken with a number of people over the years on the
> record and many will not attempt it because the
> course is not closed. One team manager actually said that Frey
> had to be drafting the day he set his record.
>
> Yeah, Steve Wood had just graduated from Highland High. I think
> he is still the youngest winner of road nationals
> and may still have the largest winning margin. A ride legends
> are made of. Flatted 2x caught back solo both times.
> Went through the field and attacked after the second lap. Tom
> Doughty was the only one to go with him. Then he dropped
> Doughty on Watertower hill. Solo'd in for the victory.
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 8:36 AM, paul via Bike-racers
> <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com
> <mailto:bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com>> wrote:
>
>
> ...and the alibaba face mask, gigantic spoke protector (disk wheel
> precursor), Schwinn Ashtabula forks, 12 spokes(?), ...
>
> On 07/19/2016 05:26 PM, Craig M. Doolittle via Bike-racers wrote:
> And on the bottom of his shoes!
> *From:*Bike-racers [mailto:bike-racers-bounces at mailman.swcp.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Craig Denman via Bike-racers
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 19, 2016 5:21 PM
> *To:* Clay Moseley; Chad Patterson; NM Bike Racers
> *Subject:* Re: [NMCycling] Mari Holden trivia
> I remember John Frey's first TT record because I spent so much
> time looking at the stenciled 51:57 on the back of his seat tube
> -- and recall the 600-grit sandpaper on all of the tube leading
> edges placed there for the hype of speed.
> Craig Denman
> On 07/19/2016 03:53 PM, Clay Moseley via Bike-racers wrote:
>
> John Frey once held the national record at around 52:00 early
> in his career with RGRT. I remember when it was still above
> the 50:00 mark around 1987 or so, then came the "fast years"
> from 1988 to recent. I think Kent was the first one to go
> sub-50 with his Ten-Speed Drive Guercotti, and within a year
> he got that down to 48:44 or so, when Frey did his thing in
> 1990 (47:35?). On that same day, Kent also went
> 47:40-something. I only recall one other person going sub-48
> on the Moriarty course, and that was Colby Pearce with his
> high-dollar Lotus and Superman position. In recent years, it
> seems that the 50:00 minute barrier has become harder to break.
> All that being said, I think the Brits were the first ones to
> make the 25-mile time trial a famous distance that was focused
> on for speed records. Our times compare closely with theirs,
> but it wasn't until Boardman came along that the 47-minute
> barrier was broken. Then there was a string of them as well.
> Anyway, back to your original question, Mari Holden's time is
> pretty killer. Many top-level (Pro/Cat-1) men can't time
> trial that fast on an equitable course with the same
> conditions. That time will stand for a while.
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Chad Patterson via
> Bike-racers <bike-racers at mailman.swcp.com
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> Can anyone tell me the last time a 51:36 would've been the
> outright winner of Record Challenge? I'm just looking for
> something that will illustrate to the average sports fan how
> ridiculously fast that is.
>
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